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Should Jews care about Christian prayers?


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(75) Ellen, April 6, 2013 9:40 PM

Who answers prayers?

In mmy opinion, there are two aspects about this:
1. prayer works on the person praying, so it may certainly strenghten their belief that their faith is best and what all people should adopt. And they might act accordingly.
2. prayer is directed towards Hashem. There is only One real Power, and it is our God, Hashem. Is there any need to fear that Hashem may decide to fulfill these prayers?
He made clear in the Tanach which role he has given us, and what he expects from us. We have an everlasting contract with Hashem, and there is no more trustworthy partner in existence. So these prayers shall never cause Hashem to change His mind about us.
It seems to me much more important to counteract missionary activities by ensuring that all Jews know enough about their birthright and the task of the Jews to give up their part of it this close to success. Who would knowingly give up the privilege to help bring about the coming of the Moshiach just before he comes?

(74) daniela, March 20, 2008 1:52 PM

No one ever attacked the post-CV2 liturgical text

In the text which replaced the tridentine liturgy of good friday still there are prayers about Jews, and i consider this legitimate, in fact, no different than our own prayers. The text written under the pontificate of Montini (paul 6) reads something like
"May the Lord our G-d Who chose them first among all people to accept His word, help them to always progress in the love of His name and in faithfullness to His Covenant. Eternal Almighty G-d, who promised to Abraham and his descendants, listen to the prayer of your Church, so that the firstborn people of the Covenant may reach the fullness of Redemption."
As much as it annoys me, it is their right to pray like that. The other stuff they say tomorrow (in a very few churches) is another thing, even in the edulcorated version that ratzinger came up with (probably not to annoy the - not-so-religious but still quite jewish - israeli authorities since he wants a visa from them). Also the last version of the latin liturgy, due to Roncalli (pope john 23) had all these phrases expunged; why not use that version? Chag Purim Sameach.

(73) Bell, March 7, 2008 8:31 AM

comment from a non-jew

Yes, I think Jews should care very much about the content of christian prayers. I was raised Catholic and have been a christian most of my life. Although I do not remember a specific incidence, christianity has influenced a belief that the Jewish religion is evil (not that the Jewish people are evil). As I seek the profound spiritual substance of the Jewish religion, I notice that a part of me is fearful of it. Any and every loving action that the Jewish people can take towards christians will help them find the richness of the Jewish faith. Many christians are hungry and searching for the truth, but they stumble over obstacles in the dark. Even a small flashlight of Jewish faith will help them to see God more clearly.

(72) Elonna, February 24, 2008 12:19 PM

Patronizing prayer

Kind of ironic, that the Catholics think they are the experts on the Torah. These people would still be worshiping Zeus if the Roman empire (in its last gasp) hadn't decided to cram Christianity down the throats of their pagan ancestors. From Torah experts! Why haven't Jews come up with their own patronizing prayer directed at xtians, called a press conference, and publicly announced it to the masses? I guess Jews aren't that arrogant, patronizing, and condescending. Leave it to the remnants of the Roman Empire to come up with patronizing prayers.

(71) Yocheved, February 23, 2008 6:48 PM

It affects the way they feel

When they pray that the Jews are ignorant and that we should accept their belief system, they are strengthening themselves! They feel more sorry for us and want even more to try to convert us! I think that is VERY detrimental to those that wouldn't have fallen into their hands before. But now with the Christians' strengthened desire to 'help save' the Jews, more Jews may fall into their trap. That is very detrimental.

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