Papal Shocker

Pope Benedict reinstates Holocaust denying Bishop

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(79) consuelo, February 9, 2009 12:48 PM

What do you expect from an institution that has allowed pedophiles to lurk around for decades possibly centuries? What do you expect from a religion based on fear?

(78) Moshe Rosen, February 4, 2009 6:39 PM

The Bishop's and Vatican's denial

It is extremely outrageous to deny that all the Holocaust happened, because the Nazis were very calculating. It further upsets me when there is the claim in Christianity where, "Christians aren't perfect - just forgiven" What gives them more of an entitlement to forgiveness by just believing and to be saved - saved from what? In reality, Christians aren't perfect and they, like all other human beings must work for forgiveness, as opposed to "believing". As for Bishop Williamson and the Vatican, they both appear to be in a profound, convoluted denial over the Holocaust, or the number of Jews who perished at the hands of the Nazis. Even so, why should we Jews worry about what the Vatican thinks? They are not our authority - only G-d is. And yes, Bishop Williamson surely better visit the concentration camps or at least a Holocaust Museum. The one in DC is very well done to describe the accounts of what occurred in the 1930's and 1940's in Europe...Other than that, why can't the Christian world do without the Vatican? It's had so many problems of persecutions since its inception in the 4th century. Frankly, people can listen to the biased opinions of the Pope and the Roman Catholic Church, or they can take the actual word of G-d, which He handed down the physical Torah at Sinai. Any wonder why the RCC is losing popularity due to all the Holocaust denial and pedaphilia that goes around? I just hope and wonder when the Gentiles of the world will grab the Jew by his/her shirt and say, "we will go with you for we have heard G-d is with you." Again, people either trust the Vatican, among any other religious institute, or they trust that they can be with G-d more directly. The Vatican needs to wake up and repent for all the corruption they've posed by monopolizing religion for centuries. Would the world be better off without the Vatican and the Papacy? If so, which institution can be more universal or impartial in believing in G-d thru Jewish teachings and B'nei Noach?

(77) Allie, February 4, 2009 3:32 PM

Vatican Realises Their Mistake

I don't know if the Vatican has seen this, or has simply received a huge outpouring of public outrage, but they have realised their mistake regarding this bishop. The BBC reported (can't post the link, but if you go to BBC online you can view the article) that the Vatican will revoke this bishop's official privileges if he doesn't recant and apologise and will not allow him or his views to remain connected to the RCC. So that's something, at least.

(76) Al, February 3, 2009 3:39 AM

Williamson is shameless and ill-informed!

As a Catholic with 12 years of educaation under my belt with 4 years of the Servite Fathers for high school, I am so enraged that the Pope would reinstate a liar like that in any capacity. 6 million Jews or more lost their lives and we do them and their families a great dishonor downplaying those numbers as if 200-300 thousand wasn't sad enough....I know the previous Popes like Paul the 6th and John-Paul the 2nd would never have allowed such a thing. So as a Catholic, I say to all my Jewish brothers and sisters that I apologize for the inappropriate actions of two members of the Catholic religion who do not speak for me and other graduates who studied the German death camps and all the misery that one set of humanity forced on another group of innocent people. What a disgrace! I am so appalled at this...now more than ever, we should acknowledge the errors of our collective past, not bury them as if they didn't happen, so our children and their children never forget and learn from this atrocity, that it will somehow lead us all to live and respect each other. This ruthless display is saddening....

(75) Anonymous, February 2, 2009 8:06 PM

so, what else is new?

When I was younger (now 81) sudents comung out of a catholic school near our elementary school would pass with the most vile,, disgusting comments to the students at the local elementary school. Guess where they got it from.

(74) RENE, January 31, 2009 7:56 PM

JEWS A THEOLOGICAL ANOMALY

DEAR RABBI, WHY DO WE EXPECT MERCY or UNDERSTANDING FROM THE ROMAN CHURCH IT HAS SPILLED MORE JEWISH BLOOD THAN ALL OTHER BRANCHES OF CHRITIANITY COMBINED! WHEN WILL WE LEARN ? CHRISTIANY, SPECIALLY ROMAN CATHOLICISM, CLAIMS FOR ITSELF THE TITLE OF G-D`S CHOSEN PEOPLE AND KEEPER OF THE SCRIPTURES , THEREFORE IT WILL NEVER FULLY ACCEPT US , BECAUSE TO DO SO WOULD BE TO DENY ITS OWN ASSERTIONS SINCE IT CLAIMS INFALABILITY THRU ITS POPES,LETS STOP SEEKING THEIR APPROVALS AND APOLOGIES SINCE THEY CAN NEVER BE TRULY SINCERE ,IN VIEW OF ITS THEOLOGY,REMEMBER IN THE EYES OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WE (THE JEWS) WERE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE(PAST TENSE)THE FACT THAT WE ARE STILL AROUND IS A BLOW TO THEIR THEOLOGY, THAT`S THE REAL REASON FOR THE CATHOLIC CHURCH`S ANTI SEMITISM ,THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE CHOSEN PEOPLE AT ANY ONE TIME,THAT`S THE REAL REASON THE CHURCH HAS TRIED TO ANHIALATE US THRUOUT HISTORY BECAUSE IT VIEWS OUR CONTINUED EXISTENCE AS A THEOLOGICAL ANOMALY !

(73) William W Feuer, January 31, 2009 3:59 PM

Disgraceful

With your reinstatement of the denier you validate the world's anti-semites and the Cathollic church joins them. Your true colors are now exposed and you are irrelevant in the history of the Catholid church and as a world leader.

(72) Marty Edwards, January 31, 2009 8:44 AM

The POPE as a leader in the World

The Pope is the head of a religion, over one billion people. The Middle East conflick is about 6 million Jewish, and 360 million Arabs. The Arabs are both Christian & Moslem. There are about 20 million Christian Arabs or more. The true value is the difference is Jewish vs. Gentile, a hard fact.

(71) annabelle, January 31, 2009 3:50 AM

i am a catholic and i was so shocked to hear remarks from the popoe agreeing with williamson denying that 6 million Jews died during holocost, very unchristian and anti semite,that is a smear campaign against the Jews and its so embarrassing to the catholics like me. Genesis 12 still stands today that anyone who blesses Israel GOD will bless, and anyone who curses Israel GOD will curse. The JEWS are the choosen people of GOD and GOD never changes, HE still the same yesterday, today and forever.

(70) Mimi C, January 30, 2009 5:24 PM

Has this gotten to the pope yet?

I would love for this video to get to the vatican. I do not personally have contacts but I may know someone who does. Should most definitely be viewed by catholics. i do not hold an entire faith responsible for what some do in the name of that faith. BUT i do believe those in leadership (priests, rabbis, teachers, parents, pastors) are held to a higher level of accountability for what they teach & disseminate. this pope & the priests under him SHOULD be confronted & held accountable for what they support, condone & teach particularly regarding the Shoah. Shalom, Mimi in the USA

(69) Elisheba Abraham, January 30, 2009 5:00 PM

IT IS NOT A SURPRISE

WELL I THINK THAT IS NOT A SURPRISE THAT BENEDICT XVI DECIDED TO APOINT A HOLOCAUST DENIER AS AN IMPORTANT MEMBER OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT THE POPE RATZINGER WAS A MEMBER OF THE HITLER'S YOUTH, HE WORK IN AN OFFICE THAT TWO CENTURIES AGO WAS KNOWN AS THE INQUISITION, ALTHOUGH THIS OFFICE DON'T BURN PEOPLE IN OUR DAYS, BASICALLY ITS TASK IS THE SAME. TO TAKE CARE OF THE PURITY OF HIS FAITH, AND WE CAN NOT FORGET THAT WE THE JEWS, AT THE EYES OF MANY PRIESTS AND CATHOLICS,ARE THE JESUS KILLERS.

(68) Anonymous, January 30, 2009 2:28 PM

MAH NISHTANA?

(67) Dr Clari, January 30, 2009 10:57 AM

So proud of your willingness to step up!

Dear Rabbi, Thank you so much for taking the trouble to speak out against the anti-semites of the world and taking a stand for the Jewish people! Dr. Clari Faerman, Atlanta, GA

(66) Jaime S. Dromi, January 30, 2009 10:28 AM

HAVE WE FORGOTEN?

Finaly the past comes back... or not? But he was with the Hitler Jugund the Hitler's Youth.

(65) Rabbi Reuben Israel Abraham, LCDR, CHC, USN, January 30, 2009 10:23 AM

What do you expect?

Rabbi Salamon, your comments need to be heard in every Catholic church throughout the world. What more can we expect from the leader who in his former life was a Nazi officer?

(64) ingrid, January 30, 2009 10:16 AM

Angry at the Media

Im extremely discontent with the media, CNN etc, when the Gaza affair was going on it was plain brain washin, just showing information elevant to their views, the news stopped being news, now its just the display of the boradcaster's mentality. Everyone seems to be this way, and honestly this new Pope looked to me like a jackass from day one. The church is going to become even more unpopular, i hope my generation will be more awake in this respect and not take our religion as seriously as our grandparents did. Looks like the media has an agenda.

(63) Adam Freedman, January 30, 2009 8:48 AM

Bishop Williamson is disgraceful!

What a disgraceful human being and to deny the death of all those innocent people is beyond words and comprehension. Rabbi Salomon keep up the good work exposing these hateful people!

(62) Keren, January 30, 2009 2:54 AM

What a Shame!

Thank you R' Salomon. This was an unbelieveable report on the corruptiion and falasy of the Church and all it stands for. Yet this isn't new. What a shame it is that we live in a society that will deny such facts and pieces of history that have been documented, and defend those who will foolishly do so. It just further proves "their" corruption and teaches us what the Torah delineates as the truth- it is a rule that "Eisav soneh l'Yaakov". Anti-semitism is on the rise. It is time for us Jews to unite in our observance of mitzvot and deep concern for one another as this is the only "ammunition" we have to fight this battle!Let us pray for Emett to be revealed and prove them wrong! G-d is the Judge of all truths and His Torah is Emett(true)! We are the fortunate ones.

(61) Yaakov Watkins, January 29, 2009 7:57 PM

Why is anyone surprised?

Same old stuff. This is the reason why we should not have Community Relations Councils. The pope has decided that he needs to side with the Arabs instead of the Jews. He is a political figure. Pirke Avos says that we should not trust politicians because they are only in it for their own benefit. To the extent he is trying to do something he thinks is good, he wants to have us convert. or have Moslems convert. or have Moslems in Gaza stop harassing Catholics there. Jewish welfare was at the bottom of his list of priorities and it just fell off entirely. Our ancestors in Europe would not be surprised. However they would probably be shocked and horrified that we are surprised. How much we have forgotten! There is a strong minchag to refrain from organized learning on Xmas. Why? Because in many places, it was the day every year that Catholics punished Jews for the death of their god. So Jews stayed home out of fear. Things are better now. Catholics don't murder us any more. But we are not important to the Pope and we never will be.

(60) Sandra Barbour, January 29, 2009 6:46 PM

Disgraceful and Immoral

It has past the point where I am saddened by comments such as the ones made by Pope Benedict about the holocaust. Now, I'm angry. I have been a Christian all my life - until recently. As I explore the Jewish faith, it makes me realize just how irresponsible and destructive Christianity has always been. It is worse than anti-Semitic. By denying the holocaust, with all the irrefutable evidence, is simply immoral. To deny the holocaust and the incredible generational pain it has caused the Jewish people is evil. The origins of the Christian religion comes from the destruction of the Jewish faith. To be accepting, or at least tolerant of the Jewish faith would mean to deny Christianity its validity. No true faith, whatever faith it may be, can have any truth to it, when is existence depends on the destruction of another group. This is not Godly. The creator has no place in a religion of hate (Christianity). The Catholic church knows its time is running out. Its entire doctrinal principles are now being brought to light and collapsing like a house of cards. The Jewish people will be vindicated. I await that day, shamed by the fact that I was once one of them, grateful that at least I have seen the truth - and it has set me free.

(59) cesar, January 29, 2009 11:44 AM

what do you expect!

What do you expect from a "german shepherd" remember that his previous job was in an office that during middle ages was called the "holy inquisition"or "holy job".I always do my part showing what this people really are,lately with all the lies about the gaza operation,shamefully here at my country mexico is plagued with this kind of people,thanks Lord that his mercy shows every morning Tehilim 90:14

(58) Imanonov, January 29, 2009 10:53 AM

Denier

Thank you Rabbi Salomon It makes you wonder: A Bishop who denies the Holocaust is reinstated by the same religion that burned Jews on the stake for denying the accuracy of the so-called New Testament and Osso Ho'Ish! Hypocrites!

(57) Brenda Faux, January 29, 2009 5:08 AM

Pope's reflections on the Holocaust

Pope's outlook Benedict XVI then immediately turned his attention to his own reflections on the Holocaust. "In these days in which we remember the Shoah, my memory turns to the images taken in during my repeated visits to Auschwitz, one of the concentration camps in which was carried out the brutal massacre of millions of Jews, innocent victims of a blind racial and religious hate," he said. "As I renew with affection the expression of my total and indisputable solidarity with our brother recipients of the First Covenant, I hope that the memory of the Shoah moves humanity to reflect on the unpredictable power of evil when it conquers the human heart," the Holy Father added. He expressed his prayer that the Holocaust be a warning for everyone: "May the Shoah teach especially, as much the old generations as the new ones, that only the tiring path of listening and dialogue, of love and pardon, leads peoples, cultures and religions of the world to the desired encounter of fraternity and peace in the world. May violence never again humiliate the dignity of man!"

(56) Doris Feinstein, January 29, 2009 1:09 AM

Disgraceful

It is disgraceful and unbelievable that there still exists such blatant anti semitism not only around the world but from a source from the Vatican who are "turning the other cheek" to vindicate such outrageous denial of the holocaust. Let the Pope and a all the deniers of the holocaust visit the concentration camp. As a young German woman once told me she had to see for herself what happened. She went to Aushwitz and as she stood up the grounds she smelled death all around her and began to shake, tremble and cry. Let the documentation from the Germans be revealed throughout the world of haters see how systematically they devised and carried out their master plan of extermination. Shameful are you Pope Benedict. You are not representing the true tenets of the Bible. group

(55) Anonymous, January 29, 2009 12:10 AM

Papal "Gaffes"

There is one reason why the pope seems to consistently create confrontational situations with other religions. He realizes there is an epic battle going on right now between good and evil, and his religion is on the sidelines. Radical Islam sidesteps frontal attacks on his religion and - like the Nazis before them - goes for those charged with being the light of the world, we Jews. And he just doesn't like to be ignored. So, he tries to stir things up and figuratively stamps his foot, hoping to be taken as a worthy enough enemy and a representative of the good as the representative of good. But everyone else, including even the radical Islamists, recognize that he and his religion forfeited any possible role of moral leadership in the world a long, long time ago.

(54) Anonymous, January 28, 2009 9:32 PM

Why is this a shocker?

The Roman Catholic Church throughout most of their history had a disdain for Judaism!

(53) Esther, January 28, 2009 8:30 PM

Who cares?

Who cares whether the Catholics like us or not? I just don't see what all the fuss is about. Yawn.

(52) Davo, January 28, 2009 4:30 PM

Anti Semitism in Catholics mothers breasts.....

Where did my mums uncles and aunts disappear to? She never saw them after the early 1940's. And my dads grandparents have never been seen again since the war. And the world Jewish population went from 16 million in 1939 to 10 million in 1945. And now has only crept up 60 years later to 13 million. And the Polish Jewish population went from 3.25 million in 1939 to 220,000 after the war. But it's easy to deny it happened if you are an anti semite, because you know it upsets Jewish people - the aim of an anti semite. Remember Mr pope and crones - you ar responsible in a large part to the progroms, crusades and inquistions that have killed 10's of millions of Jews - so ask for some damn forgiveness.

(51) Mary Jean Coyne, January 28, 2009 2:18 PM

I am so sorry

I cannot express my outrage & shame at the reprehensible action of the pope. His decisions are not infallible, as this disgraceful action clearly shows. Even someone as obviously insulated from reality as he seems to be should have known better. For whatever good it may do, please accept my heartfelt apology for such an ill-considered action. Many of us were appalled when his nomination was announced. Please do not make the mistake of thinking that we agree with him.

(50) Eric, January 28, 2009 2:09 PM

Same old, same old...

When will people learn?! The Roman Catholic Church says she does not change. The present pope was given the position as the Head of the Inquisition by John Paul II. Doesn't anyone remember what that stood for? The most un-Christian of all organizations...

(49) John K Elim, January 28, 2009 1:52 PM

Well, whaddya know?

What do you expect? Joseph Ratzinger was in the Hitlerjugend!

(48) Tamar, January 28, 2009 1:47 PM

Renegade bishops

Yes, Bishop Williamson was reinstated into the RCC. However, Bishop Williamson's higher authority has but a gag order on him and has banned him from making further comments on this issue.

(47) Philosemite, January 28, 2009 1:09 PM

No permission to officiate as a bishop

AS Williamson, a graduate of Cambridge in English Literature and no post-graduate experience, has foisted his historical ignorance , reinforced by reading The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and David Irving, on the world, it is right that Israelis and Chhistians of all kinds object to his being given any ecclesiastical standing. However, the Pope, whom only those wishing to cause trouble call an ex-Nazi - he never was, nor were his parents, has not given him any standing at all. He cannot ordain, confirm, absolve without permission. The Superior of his Society has banned him from saying anything on political or historical subjects - just as well his capacity to give offence was as great as his obvious ignorance. It might be better to let the Pope deal with him, but at the moment he does not accept the Pope's authority and will probably head his own sect with himself as Pope. He should not be allowed to derail good relations between Christians and their Jewish brethren. Williamson is either mad or bad. In the former case he should have treatment, in the latter be subject to Catholic discipline.

(46) Coretta, January 28, 2009 12:33 PM

Papal Shocker

I am Roman Catholic. I also have a deep love of Judaism. I have to correct some of the misinformation in the comments. Pope Benedict was never a Nazi. His family opposed the Nazi regime. When he was a child, he, along with his brother was involuntarily forced into the Hitler Youth. All German children were forced to join the Hitler Youth. His brother entered seminary and was exempt from military service. Pope Benedict was drafted into the German army, but later went AWOL. The Society of St. Pius X is a dissident group. The lifting of the excommunications was an attempt to bring them back into full communion with the Catholic Church. The Bishop who denies the Holocaust is in error. His words have been condemned by the Pope. The Catholic Church has profound respect for Judaism and mourns the 6 million murdered by the Nazi regime. Let's pray that this dissident Bishop will repent of his views. We all sin and are in need of forgiveness. I ask all Jews and Christians to storm heaven with prayers for his conversion. Last, the Pope is only infallible on matters of faith and morals, issues which have salvific power. God bless!

(45) Ma. del Consuelo R. de Sabre, January 28, 2009 12:15 PM

Benedict

There is not doubt this papa is guided by the devil. On the other hand, my question is where are all the studies that supposedly a man in that position should have? Poor catholic people being guided for a fool.

(44) Dvirah, January 28, 2009 11:13 AM

Look at History

If you look at the history of the CC and its popes, you will find that it was always about "temporal" power - actual political power on Earth - rather than spiritual power as it claims to be. Also you will find that the Pope, who must always be correct, must by extension always be on the winning side - again politically not spiritually. See for example the civil war in England in the 12th century - how the then pope kept changing sides according to who was stronger at the moment. Today's apparent politically strongest power is the pro-Islam group: of course the CC will side with them, whih automatically puts them against the Jews, among some others. And of course they will parrot the dictums of their chosen party.

(43) Hannah Tova, January 28, 2009 10:51 AM

The judgement

Personally, I do not think the Pope should visit Israel. But, if he does, I think he should spend a very long time at Yad V'Shem where he can see not only the consequences of the actions of the Third Reich but, also, he could learn what it took some people to be Righteous Gentiles. Some people's faith is tested by men, some by God. The Pope passed the test of men. May God judge him now.

(42) Beverly Kurtin, January 28, 2009 10:43 AM

Nazi Pope?

Right now I’m so angry I am shaking. Earlier today I had an individual tell me that the Crusades were not created by Christians, they were created by Catholics who are not Christians. This idiotic attempt by “born again” evangelicals to strip the Roman Catholic Church of the term “Christian” disgusts me to the nth degree. The evangelicals think that by de-Christianizing Catholics they can wash their hands and be sinless. I do not buy it for one instant. The Pope has shown his true feelings towards Judaism. By reinstating a self-proclaimed Holocaust Denier he has hawked up phlegm and spit it in the face of every single Jew in the world. Right back atcha bud. I have a feeling that a small earthquake had to happen in the Vatican as Pope John Paul is spinning in his crypt. President Dwight Eisenhower had his photographers take pictures of the horror the Nazis had created to PROVE that there had been a Holocaust and now some moronic Bishop denies what has been shown for the past 60 some-odd years. Any respect for the Catholic Church I had built up over the years is GONE, GONE, GONE. What the Pope says the Catholics around the world accept as the truth so I have to assume that from this moment on every Catholic in the world has also spit in our faces. Thanks, Pope Benedict. You’ve shown your true colors and your Swastika.

(41) Anonymous, January 28, 2009 8:11 AM

Where did my grandfather come from?

If the holocaust never happened, where did my grandfather get those blue numbers on his arm? How did his nose become crooked if not from a beating? Moreover, is he a mushroom? What happened to his parents?

(40) Brenda Faux, January 28, 2009 5:13 AM

Bishop's Order apologises 27.1.09

Holocaust-Denying Bishop Silenced Bishop Fellay Apologizes on Behalf of Pius X Society MENZINGEN, Switzerland, JAN. 27, 2009 (Zenit.org).- Bishop Bernard Fellay, superior-general of the Society of St. Pius X, publicly apologized for statements regarding the Holocaust made by one of the society's bishops, and reported that the prelate has been forbidden to speak further on the issue. Bishop Richard Williamson, in an interview taped in November, but aired last Wednesday on Swedish television, claimed that historical evidence denies the gassing of Jews in Nazi concentration camps. Days later Benedict XVI lifted the excommunication of Bishop Williamson, along with Bishop Fellay and two others, who were ordained bishops by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre in 1988 without papal permission. The act was to be a step toward healing the division between the society and the Vatican that resulted from the ordinations. "It is evident that a Catholic bishop cannot speak with ecclesial authority if it is not a question of faith and morals," said Bishop Fellay. "Our fraternity does not claim any authority over other questions." "With great sadness we acknowledge the extent to which the violation of this mandate has damaged our mission," he continued. "The statements of Bishop Williamson do not reflect in any way the position of our society." Bishop Fellay said that until further notice Bishop Williamson has been prohibited from speaking on these matters. The superior-general asked "for the forgiveness of the Supreme Pontiff, and of all people of good will, for the dramatic consequences of this act," which said were "not acceptable."

(39) Christian, January 28, 2009 1:13 AM

Huge misunderstanding

Catholic church is, more than ever, pro truth but never excommunicates for anrisemitism or for anybody's friendship with tyrants of any kind. This kind of 'punishment' is only about religious doctrine. Even the official newspapaer of the Vatican has openly written about the plain truth vs. mr. Williamson. In this case, to regret only lack of attention on both sides.

(38) Chaya, January 28, 2009 12:16 AM

A continuation of bad choices...

After the death of Pope Paul, the church had a choice of two men for pope. One, an African Bishop, or "Benedict" (Radzinger) , the ex-Nazi. It was pretty clear the direction that the church chose. By the way, the sect that includes this anti-Semite bishop is the same one that Mel Gibson and his father follow. It's a sad commentary on future relationships between RCC and us.

(37) Anonymous, January 27, 2009 11:31 PM

As a former Roman Catholic, I was encouraged to hear Rabbi Salomon speak out so clearly about this pope. I have been greatly concerned about so many Jews not being aware of the antisemitism which is still alive and well in the Roman Catholic church. I read the testimony of a former priest in the St. Pius X group who had a meeting with his superior while still in the group and this superior had a picture of Hitler in his office. This priest left the group, but was threatened. I have also read other reports of people who have been in this group who were threatened if they would leave. I do believe this group has an antisemitic base and I do believe also that this pope knows that. Hopefully this will serve as a red flag for Israel and for all Jews everywhere. I have been often discouraged by seeing the pope given acclamations by the Jewish community.

(36) Anonymous, January 27, 2009 10:37 PM

Not unexpected, but a shocker

Dear Honourable Rabbi Salomon: This is a shocker, however, not an unexpected one. Strategically, in my opinion, all bases are being covered by the that institution. As well, by giving proxy legitimacy to an obvious anti-semitic revision, on par with the David Irvings of this world, this institution is aligning itself with other violent, totalitarian, and anti-human currents, now aggregating globally. This "positional manoeuvering", can only emanate from the basest of cynical world-views, and has absolutely nothing to do with Spiritual guidance, and the love of G-d. It would perhaps be too much to ask a theology which holds itself to be "infallible" and brooks no dissent - such is the nature of that institution. It is profoundly disappointing, and hurtful that well-read, and well-traveled individuals would quibble over the facts and and attempt to "re-write" history. Murder is still murder, and the Germans are responsible for the genocide of the Jewish people - the world was an accomplice in the destruction of European Jewry. Even I, very distantly am impacted - my family history was wilfully shrouded in mystery, and fear, terror and shame was its cover. I do not think that being "offended" makes much difference, when individuals willfully lie, misrepresent, attempt to trivialize the lives of those "True", "Holy People" who were murdered in the Shoah, knowingly cause the grievious re-opening of unspeakable genocide by questioning its veracity, it is G-d's very existence, which is being assaulted. The covenant has never been broken, and regardless of the attacks by viciously-minded, and vile-hearted nincompoops (somehow the sheer idiocy of giving credence to a conspiracy theorist who holds the Protocols to be "true", is frankly, Bizzare..), brings discredit to their institution. The Billions of righteous men, women, children who follow the teachings of the catholic church, in good faith, and who in their decency, kept their reservations to themselves, concerning the choice of a nazi-indoctrinated Pope, must I am sure, wonder - in disbelief at this bishop. It is very difficult to take these celibate men, seriously, at the best of times, but this is frankly, so strange... However, this also greatly explains, how the history of many European Jews has vanished into oblivion - as has their fortunes, possessions, lands, factories, and monies also vanished into the coffers of this church. As a Jew, I am simply, disbelieving that an intellectual "moron" and moral cretin, is allowed to be part of a "serious" Spiritual path. Perhaps, a re-reading of the Christian bible is in order - one of the Jewish boys is the "G-d" being worshiped. This, is one of the strangest, nonsensical developments, yet. It is very difficult to take ideologues seriously.

(35) Anonymous, January 27, 2009 7:31 PM

One should not be so naive as to be shocked by the actions of this Pope. Barring the Pope's visit would play into the hands of the hate mongers. Let the Christians who support Israel repudiate the Pope's actions.

(34) Anonymous, January 27, 2009 7:21 PM

a German Pope? What DO YOU expect ?

I know that this comment could be interpreted as " racist " still we were fortunate in having a Pole as the last Head of the Vatican. But what do really expect of a German who presents as did the Nazis " ein HerrenVolk"

(33) Leibel ben Yitzchak, January 27, 2009 7:16 PM

Want to Witness the Bishop for Yourself?

Aish wisely does not allow web links on their site. But if you go to You Tube dot com and and search for Bishop Williamson, you'll find a 5:48 interview that's a shocker. See for yourself.

(32) Beverly Kurtin, January 27, 2009 6:20 PM

Nazi Pope?

Right now I’m so angry I am shaking. Earlier today I had an individual tell me that the Crusades were not created by Christians, they were created by Catholics who are not Christians. This idiotic attempt by “born again” evangelicals to strip the Roman Catholic Church of the term “Christian” disgusts me to the nth degree. The evangelicals think that by de-Christianizing Catholics they can wash their hands and be sinless. I do not buy it for one instant. The Pope has shown his true feelings towards Judaism. By reinstating a self-proclaimed Holocaust Denier he has hawked up phlegm and spit it in the face of every single Jew in the world. Right back atcha bud. I have a feeling that a small earthquake had to happen in the Vatican as Pope John Paul is spinning in his crypt. President Dwight Eisenhower had his photographers take pictures of the horror the Nazis had created to PROVE that there had been a Holocaust and now some moronic Bishop denies what has been shown for the past 60 some-odd years. Any respect for the Catholic Church I had built up over the years is GONE, GONE, GONE. What the Pope says the Catholics around the world accept as the truth so I have to assume that from this moment on every Catholic in the world has also spit in our faces. Thanks, Pope Benedict. You’ve shown your true colors and your Swastika.

(31) Marleen Perret, January 27, 2009 6:00 PM

Disgusting

This action of the Pope is a direct insult, not only to Jews, but to the thousands of young American men who lost their lives defending decency in the Second World War. It is a direct attack on the sacrifice of all those who died horribly, who were not Jews, but who the Nazis judged unworthy to live. This outrage is only another light which shines on a papacy that brought "home" to Rome an Archbishop who, had he remained in the U.S.A.,would have faced criminal charges for covering-up child abuse in his diocese. And need we forget his desire to beatify Pius XII, whose actions during the WWII were, at the least, questionable. Have the Catholics perhaps produced their own anti-Christ?? Just a thought!

(30) Chayah, January 27, 2009 5:55 PM

All that Pope John Paul II tried to undo and rebuild has, in one act, destroyed.

(29) dfeder, January 27, 2009 5:00 PM

No Nazis Here

I am not surprised. Have we already forgotten that this Pope was in the SS Jungen? We should expect him to love Jews? I am not at all surprised that he continues the Catholic hierarchy's 1,900-year tradition of Jew hatred. Were Jesus alive, they'd nail him up for being a Jew.

(28) susan, January 27, 2009 4:19 PM

I am a Christian and God has put a love for the Jewish people in my heart. I am torn about this Pope. I am very hurt and upset that someone could deny that the Holocaust happened, I guess those pictures that were taken of all the dead bodies were "enchanced" also what about all the survivors from all the different countries??? I am positive they did not all get together and just come up with this story of horrors... Duh what happened to common sense, But also know this, all of these things that are happening know are the events that must line up in order for the prophecies to come to pass. I am in that respect excited as a born again believer to see Jesus come.. but on the other hand I am disappointed to see people like this have a voice in the world to deny what has happened to the precious Jewish people.

(27) Bruno Gideon, January 27, 2009 3:49 PM

Andry and helpless.

I am a pretty balanced guy but hearing this makes me angry and at the same time helpless. Imagine, just for political reasons the Pope, the highest dignitary in the Roman catholic church re-instated an excommunicated Bishop who denied the Holocaust. This means that now you can say that the Holocaust is a hoax and the Pope would agree. Right? Remember Ahmadinejad? What is the difference? But there is more. The Pope also re-instated another Bishop who publicly said that the 9/11 disaster was handmade by Americans, so that they could invade Afghanistan. Can it get any worse than this? Yes it can. By remembering that the same Vatican in 1945 gave countless diplomatic passports to Nazi criminals and murderers and allowed then to escape to South Africa and thus evade prosecution. This is not about hitting on another religion. That wouldn't be style. It is about having no shame when you want to achieve something – in this time opening the door to the extreme right wing Catholics. I am very disturbed and read alarming signs that history repeats itself.

(26) Allan, January 27, 2009 3:18 PM

Hit the nail on the head

#5 Adam sorry to say I agree with you...yes he was with the Hitler Youth

(25) Anonymous, January 27, 2009 3:14 PM

Not all Catholics believe that the pope is infallible...he is just a man who like everyone else makes mistakes. I do not agree with everything the pope does or says and often feel that he is not in touch with the members of his faith. I can not believe though that anyone with education and priest have to be educated would deny holocaust. Especially after John Paul II apologized to the Jewish people. I am Catholic and I admire Jewish people for their faith

(24) ruth housman, January 27, 2009 2:50 PM

the promulgation of terrible lies

There is nothing you have said that does not echo for me, the deep distress of such crazy denial of The Holocaust. What a hollow feeling, to know there are people who actually promulgate such evident, destructive, corrosive lies. Sadly, this isn't Disney. For me it's so beyond delusional, so beyond crazy, beyond the scope of intelligent thought. I wonder how people who say these things got to thinking in this distorted way. It's the nail in denial. I wonder: What would happen if I called the crucifixion a "crucifiction"? How would those in the name of being religious who hate, deal with a Jewish denial of such a beyond horrifc event in history, the Christ on the cross. Maybe this didn't happen... I am saying, if it's time to rethink history, we can do this too. But we won't.

(23) Bassie, January 27, 2009 2:28 PM

No papal email, Chavi!

Alas, the gentleman from Vatican City probably will remain clueless, as the Vatican Web site has no contact info for the papal offices. The only email addresses available to the public are the English and German addresses for the Swiss Guard.

(22) lynn, January 27, 2009 1:29 PM

bravo rabbi... barvo...

(21) Anonymous, January 27, 2009 1:24 PM

Don't look the other way

Do not ignore the small-(large warnings) like acceptance of this pope's view. We must be on our guard against anti-Semitism and protect Israel in VOICE everywhere. Pass this video around! Get this message going around the world!

(20) Rebecca, January 27, 2009 12:57 PM

Not reinstated as Bishop, but UN-Excommunicated

After looking more into the matter, I found he was not reinstated as Bishop, but Un-Excommunicated. Though not a popular move, part of me thinks that the Pope is just trying to allow the man a chance to obtain mercy and forgiveness from G-d in the context of Catholicism as a layman, should he choose to repent.

(19) Wayne, January 27, 2009 12:26 PM

Brenda Faux

How can anyone say the Pope has a "mis-understanding?" Remember, he is "infallable." That means it is not possible for him to have a "mis-understanding" as he doesn't make mistakes. Since he doesn't make mistakes he is saying this with full knowledge of what he is doing. I have known two Nazis and both did not serve in the German military. They were young and were only in the Hitler Youth. Both hated Jews and taught their children to do the same. I am not surprized that this Nazi (the Pope) has the same beliefs. Rarely do people become something as adults other than what they were raised as children. I am always puzzled why anyone would follow this church's beliefs knowing of its intolerant, violent and murderous past.

(18) Rebecca, January 27, 2009 12:24 PM

An Upset Catholic

First I want to clarify what infallibility means. It has to do with the teaches of Faith and not from what I can find - of a Popes decisions. As a head-over-heals-in-love Catholic Jew Lover, I'm am very disappointed about this decision and I am very saddened by this. The Jewish - Catholic relationship is very important to me. I feel that the late Pope John Paul II did good in progressing this, but now I feel like this progress is falling apart. I'm going to see if there is an email address at the Vatican website.

(17) Grace Fishenfeld, January 27, 2009 12:15 PM

Verdict Not In

Vatican II changed the view of the Catholic Church in relation to Jewish responsibility for the death of Jesus Christ. The relationship between Jews and Catholic church since the mid 1960's has been equitable. Two years ago I heard a Priest speak in a trialogue at Florida Atlantic University,in Florida. His message brightened the room and gave hope to the audience that the world is a big and beautiful place with room for all people of good will. The Rabbi, from Florence, Italy and The American Muslim, shared the same kind of message. Why, would Pope Benedict XVI want to throw away the progress made between religions? I understand that the former Bishop Williams, was really not reinstated but given the privelege of remaing as an inactive member of the church. Unfortunately, Pope Benedict's sensitivity fell short. I think he was more interested in resting the bitter soul of Churchman Williams than placating the mourners of the six thousand Jews who died in the Holocaust. Final judgment is not in the hands of the Pope. There is one higher power that will settle the matter.

(16) Jon, January 27, 2009 12:11 PM

This Bishop was ordained by the extremist Archbishop Lefevre. The group and all its followers were declared excommunicate by Pope John Paul. What message is this present German sending out to the world by revoking that well thought-out decision? I hope that all reasonable people will see it for what it is, another anti semitic act by the Pontiff.

(15) Patricio Fischman, January 27, 2009 11:52 AM

Bishop Williamson has a Delusional Disorder

I am a psychiatrist. Just by following the interviews on TV, it is clear that this man suffers from a severe paranoid and narcissitic disorders. He "has the truth" and "is on a mission". Too bad the pope does not have good psychiatrists on his team.

(14) Linda Der-Kevorkian, January 27, 2009 11:42 AM

May the Lord open peoples'eyes' and hearts to the lies they are proclaiming. Can there be any consolation in knowing that ALL will stand before G-d and be accountable....

(13) David Gordon, January 27, 2009 11:34 AM

Contact must be made with the pope. I don't know how but it must be done. Perhaps the Israeli Government will be in a position to make contact with him. Not that it will make any difference because the pope knows Williamson's views and made his decision knowing what Mr. Williamson has spued out. However a very strong protest must be made to let him know that see through his hypocrisy and are having none of it.

(12) monica, January 27, 2009 11:31 AM

Papal misunderstanding

I agree with Brenda. I am a roman catholic with a strong love for Israel and the Holy Land. The Catholic Church including the Pope know that the Holocaust is a historical and painful fact. That Bishop is perhaps an infiltrator that showed his true color in the past. Salvation comes from the Jews and we love you. Shalom.

(11) Ash, January 27, 2009 11:14 AM

This does not surprise me at all. You are God's chosen Nation, this does not sit well with people of other nations. If only they could understand that through the Jewish Nation all Nations are to be blessed. I was raised a Roman Catholic, and I had to leave their religion for I found it not to be according to scriptures. Ash

(10) Robert, January 27, 2009 10:45 AM

Update

In addition to what I just said: The priestly fraternity St. Pius just asked the Pope's forgiveness for what bishop Williamson said. He will not be allowed to talk about political or historical issues in the future anymore (anyway a bishop's authority is on matters of faith and moral, not on anything else). So again I would call on all of you guys to not believe that the Pope or any other Catholic supports what this single bishop has said. But I also believe that to attack others for the unbelievable statements of this bishop would maybe even help his cause, as this is probably what he wanted: drive a wall between the Pope and the fraternity St. Pius. I have always loved the Jewish people, I speak some Hebrew and am in touch with the local communites here. But to be honest, I would never address a Jewish rabbi the way you address the Pope - no matter what he might say. Shalom, Robert

(9) Lorraine, January 27, 2009 10:43 AM

Evil perpetrated by one man does not reflect all

Horrific happenings at the Vatican. Please do not entertain the idea that all, or even many Christians, are all right with this bizarre decision. We are appalled and in grief for this dangerous abberation and injustice.

(8) Robert, January 27, 2009 10:04 AM

Don't let yourself be fooled by this bishop!

Hey there, I just heard some of your comment. Now I am a German Catholic who has also lived with Israelis for many years. While I understand your point, you are getting fooled by this bishop. His words are being condemned all over the Catholic Church. All he ever wanted was to prevent the priestly brotherhood St. Pius and its bishops to get closer to Rome again (like by taking back the excommunication). As he obviously did not see any other means, he did some sort of "suicidal attack" - by denying the shoa. And the whole world seems to buy it and does not seem to see the cheap intention behind his words. The excommunication itself has nothing to do with all of that. However, to blame the Pope and His decision for whatever shameful nonsense this individual said would mean playing this one bishop's game and like this giving him the final victory - should he manage to succeed with his plans. As you might all know, the Catholic Church and its believers have always condemned the shoa and do just that to this very day. Don't buy this guy's lies and don't blame other people for what he said! Would you blame the Jewish people for this one man who shot Itzchak Rabin? Probably not. The Catholic Church - including myself - has never denied the shoa and does a lot to reach out to our "elder brothers" in love and humility. Maybe your will be able to accept that some day. G'd bless, Robert www.katholisch-leben.org

(7) Fred Bradley, January 27, 2009 9:44 AM

Infallible

If the Pope has already appointed him, this man will remain in that position. The Catholics believe the Pope is infallible and his decision & authority come directly from G-d. Regrettably, this appointment is just a continuation of the blatant Jew-hating from Catholic church. I don't need to remind you of the complicity of the Catholic church during Hitler's reign of terror. I will continue to pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Never forget that you are G-d's chosen people & in the end, you will be vindicated by G-d himself.

(6) chavi, January 27, 2009 9:43 AM

so right

Very, very well said. Does the Pope have an email address?

(5) Adam, January 27, 2009 9:40 AM

Oy, what do you expect from a former member of the Hitler Youth. Yes- Pope Benedict XVI was a member of the Hitler Youth during WWII.

(4) Jeannette Zipes, January 27, 2009 9:32 AM

I was so happy to hear that he revoked the excommunication of Puis x group, but I was chargrined about the bishop Williamson who does not beleive the holocaust happened.My father was a prisoner of war in Germany and he was a French Roman Catholic. He saw many people die not only Jews but many others. He was there for four years. When he came out. He was halph dead. At 42 years he had a heart attack and when they examined him he had the inside of a 70 year old man. It is a shame to have a Bishop that is so delusinoal. We hope this man will perhaps have so change in thoughts. I know Pope Benedick knows the truth about the holocaust and it is a grave sin to be anti semitic .Let us put this in prayers because I beleive in miracles. Mrs. Jeannette Zipes

(3) Brenda FAux, January 27, 2009 9:04 AM

Papal misunderstanding

I totally agree with Alibaba. Benedict is not in anyway trying to offend the Jewish people whom he loves, as do all true Catholics.How can the Bishop deny a historical fact? Perhaps he has a mental condition! That is the only kind way to think.

(2) Alibaba, January 27, 2009 8:51 AM

A misunderstanding-

I have read that he was "unexcommunicated" but not reinstated as a bishop and that this had more to do with the jerk's relationship to the Catholic Church than to his stance on the Holocaust.

(1) Anonymous, January 27, 2009 8:47 AM

A VERY POWERFUL MESSAGE-MAYBE THE POPE WILL TAKE IT TO HEART AND REVERSE HIS MISTAKE

 

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