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Enforcing a Modesty Code

Can privately-owned stores dictate how we dress in their store?

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(41) Annette, February 13, 2015 4:02 PM

No Shoes No Shirt No Service

The above is a sign that used to be common in Northern Ontario in the 70's --- while in Rome do as the Romans (if it doesn't contradict your own value system)
Absolutely allowed!!! otherwise we'd all have to live by THE LOWEST of the Lowest standards! no where near Torah values, nor my own comfort zone for that matter.
And I find that it is mostly the secular jews who object to this code in jewish establishments! Even church goers dress better than our own brethren. I expect a proper dress code from my own non observant kids when they come to visit. They will not be going to their own graves saying 'Mum never told me & I didn't know' - conversely If someone comes into 'my store' wearing a balaclava I'd want it OFF at the entrance - or I'd be VERY suspicious of what my next move would be. We ARE what we wear, we ARE what we eat, we ARE what we read, we ARE who we hang out with. In fact that's exactly WHAT makes us.

(40) esti herskowitz, March 9, 2014 3:14 PM

i'm a tour guide in Israel, and in many of the Christian areas, there are signs that say 'no shorts'. they don't differentiate between men and women, it's against an attitude of dress. the Christians who visit these sites are fine with these dictates, it enhances their visit as it enhances their thought process and spirituality level.
there are a lot of parallels that we jews can learn from them. this is not about discrimination. it's about accommodating the people in the store, or the vicinity, in their home turf, where we are visiting. it is about getting in to a mind set , maybe just for a short time, that says something different (and I'd like to think, higher) than our standard day to day routine mind frame. it opens our eyes to other people's thoughts and ideas, and helps us recognize, or at least look for, the divine in our everyday. we should appreciate it,

Anonymous, April 8, 2014 9:19 PM

modesty and tourists

Yes, regarding the christian tourists not minding the dress code; it is more like showing respect, being conscious that the place you're at is not just a place but a holy place.
It helps you to transition into another state of being.
Nothing to do with discrimination , oppression , nor being 'subservient' . I think people are gradually forgetting this and what it means because some are so out of touch with their spiritual life.

(39) Avi, February 17, 2014 4:48 PM

Define Discrimination

I think discrimination should be defined. These days any rules or regulations on people is called discrimination when it is not! asking for all people who want to enter dress a certain way is not discrimination, the world has become so "open" and "liberal" and "enlightened" that the Western world is closed, dark, and limiting.

(38) Anonymous, February 12, 2014 8:33 PM

Many restaurants have a policy of shoes and shirts required.

Many a restaurant has a policy requiring shoes and shirts to be worn, and patrons who don't comply will not be served (and probably will be asked to leave). This should be no different. The proprietor has a right to set standards for customers in his (her) place of business.

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