Dating Advice #109 - The Missing Spark
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Dating Advice #109 - The Missing Spark
Dating Advice 109

Dating Advice #109 - The Missing Spark

Hollywood tells us that a relationship needs romance, fireworks and sizzle. But is that reality?

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Dear Rosie & Sherry,

I'm in a difficult quandary. I've been dating a wonderful man for two months. The problem is, we have now stopped dating. Why? Because he doesn't have that feeling of butterflies, of romance, of excitement.

I must admit that while I don't feel those things either, we have so much in common (life goals and values), and have fun together, both respect each other a great deal, and feel physical attraction to each other.

So my question is: Is that "spark" able to be created? Or is it just there, or not there?

I feel like I'm losing someone really special because of this abstract thing. Any advice would be appreciated.

Ellen

Dear Ellen,

Images of romance fostered by novels, movies and TV have created a generation of men and women who have very unrealistic expectations about their relationships. The truth is that the "spark" that this man was looking for is an overrated myth. It isn't necessary for a courtship, nor for the majority of happy, loving, enduring marriages, it wasn't ever present.

Yes, there are some people who feel an intense, almost instant attraction... "fireworks," "electricity," a "spark." They feel drawn to each other even though they know nothing about each other's values, personal qualities, expectations, or if their personalities are compatible. It could be that they have a strong "chemical" reaction, or a personal "magnetism" that makes them feel as if they've known each other all their lives.

Is this instant attraction a barometer by which we could measure the likelihood that two people have met their future life partners? Of course not! The vast majority of people who feel a strong connection from the outset end up breaking up a few months later. That's because the "electricity" wears off, and when it does, many of these people realize that they don't have very much in common, nor do they share values or life goals. Frequently they were so blinded by infatuation that they didn't see that the other person had serious flaws, or that they never developed more than a superficial connection.

Sometimes, two people who feel an instant attraction stay together for the long haul. That's because they were fortunate enough to have compatible values, goals and personalities, and because these qualities enabled them to build depth to their relationship. When the infatuation faded, they may not have even noticed because they had gradually built a close, trusting, emotionally intimate friendship that became the cornerstone of their marriage.

As we mentioned earlier, the majority of couples who achieve this level of emotional intimacy completely skip the "sparks." These relationships develop gradually. Sometimes, they are interested in each other from the time they first meet, and other times, it takes a few dates before they realize there may be possibilities between them. Some people don't even feel physical attraction until their second, third or fourth date, when they recognize that their dating partner's looks are "growing" on them. Over a month or two or three, these fortunate men and women realize that they care very much for each other, accept each other's strengths and weaknesses, and share the gifts of emotional connection, mutual respect and admiration, and physical attraction.

Some people may call this sensation "falling in love," but we don't like to use this term. That's because genuine love between a man and a woman develops during marriage, as they go through life's ups and downs together. A couple that shares these qualities, as well as compatible goals and values, has the foundation for a great marriage.

It seems that you and the man you were dating were moving toward such a relationship. Not only is it a shame that he broke up with you because a mythical expectation never materialized, but if he continues to embrace this belief he may never give a promising relationship a chance. Is it possible that you can discuss these ideas with him and see if he would like to reconsider his decision?

If he is willing to reconsider, we'd like to suggest two steps that can help him sort out what he really feels about you, and what he expects. The first is for him to find a happily married friend, relative, rabbi, former teacher, neighbor, etc. who can be a mentor and sounding board for him. Single friends can't play this role; they often reinforce negative stereotypes and unrealistic expectations.

The second is for both of you to read the first few chapters of our book, "In The Beginning." It will help both of you to better understand the dynamics at play here, and decide whether you wish to continue the path toward marriage.

We hope that our answer has been helpful, and wish you the best of luck.

Rosie & Sherry


FOLLOW-UP TO DATING MAZE #106 "BLIND WEDDING":

Hello Rosie & Sherry,

Thank you so much for responding to my last email. Everything you said rang true for me regarding my friend's situation. I'm sad to report that things with her took a turn for the worse.

She's still with this guy she met on the Internet. Early in their courtship he promised her a lot of things, like promising to pay for her tickets to come over to his country, and also to sponsor her post-grad education when she's ready. He told her he had a lot of money for them to start a life together and she shouldn't worry about anything. On the strength of those promises my friend had begun making plans to move to where he is, much to my and her family's dismay. When she told him she's ready to meet him he demurred and told her he's too busy and that he's still "looking into things."

Also, after that he's been communicating with her less and less, sometimes off for several days at a time. When they do have conversations, the guy begs off after 10 minutes, saying he's too tired to talk. And whenever she tries to recall him to their plans for the future and all the stuff he'd said he'd do for her, he glosses over the subject by peppering her with endearments and switching to another topic. But he never breathed a word since about their future together.

My friend is 27 years old, lives with her parents and after she met this guy she quit working and all she does now is hang around the phone and be on the Internet almost the whole day waiting for this guy to come on, and if he doesn't show up or doesn't call she'll be crying the whole time and making herself really miserable. She'll swallow any excuses he makes, though.

I have an impression the relationship is unraveling and the guy is just stringing her along. She's more miserable than happy now. As her close friend, I don't see anything positive coming out of all this. She used to be an upbeat, happy young woman and now she's a shell of her former self. All her romantic relationships are long distance. Her last long-distance relationship was with a guy she met on the Internet who constantly lied to her and strung her along for two years. She has never met him in person. It turns out he's already married and just needed a part-time fancy. He promised her everything, of course. Now it seems as she's getting drawn in to the same situation.

She keeps telling me she won't listen to advice. Oftentimes I think I should just give up and let her figure out stuff for herself. I'd welcome any suggestions and advice from you though. Thank you very much for your help.


ROSIE & SHERRY RESPOND:

The fact that this guy is cooling off the relationship with your friend is actually a good thing, in that it sounds as if nothing will ever come of an Internet "romance" that seemed problematic from the start. Now, of course, is the time to address the bigger picture. Your friend needs help, but it is not the kind of help you are capable of giving her.

We have a number of questions. What made a formerly happily, bubbly 27-year-old quit her job and turn into a depressed Internet junkie? Why does she repeatedly seek out long-distance relationships that are orchestrated by con men on the other side? Why, at age 27, is she still living with her parents? We don't know the answers to these questions, but we do know that your girlfriend needs intervention by a licensed mental health professional.

The best help that you, her other friends and her family members can give is to convince her to meet with a well-qualified therapist. You may want to speak with your friend's parents about the situation. If they have similar concerns, each of you should try to get recommendations for a good therapist, interview the candidates to see if they will be good for your friend's personality, and when you find the right one, discuss with him/her the best way to refer your friend to them.

We feel that this is the best way that you and your friend's family can help her break the self-destructive pattern in which she finds herself. We hope that you are successful.

Rosie & Sherry

Published: January 19, 2003

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Visitor Comments: 7

(7) Fi, February 27, 2013 9:54 PM

The spark

Is actually very important. Who wants to plod on hoping it might come later? Yikes. A physical and mental coming together is the glue, you need both. It's not superficial, it's a human emotion that gets a bad rap in the above advice. I've tried to go on without it, believe me, but I know in my heart it's not right and the other person has a right to meet someone for whom they tick every box. I don't need a man in my life but I absolutely choose to have someone who is intelligent, thoughtful, generous, fun and hot. To me.

(6) CarrieAnn, October 5, 2012 8:01 PM

the spark

I got the exact same thing from a guy just there, we were clicking in every possible sense we have been on about 5 times and been intimate and well apparently there is no spark... He likes me more than most girls he has been with than his ex and now he feels no spark?! I even know that it doesn't exist but no changing his mind, so what do I do?? Just act relaxed and give him the space to miss me and maybe meet later to talk about it, but i am definitely not going to pressure him. Just taking a chilled out approach just disappointed that we are perfectly matched and well not given a chance.

(5) Marion, August 11, 2012 3:03 AM

Living w parents

Anon; It is possible to live with your parents as an adult if you have a job or are at college... but why would you want to? You need your own life. Secondly, this 27 year old woman has no job and sits around all day staring at the phone. This isn't acceptable, and needs addressing. Fast.

(4) Anonymous, November 5, 2004 12:00 AM

The issue is differentiation

I agree with the woman's comment and disagree with the first statement. You can live with your parents and be completely independent- I know several adults who are living with their parents, are successful at their jobs, dating, and on their way to marrying. Similarly, you can live away from your parents and be extremely dependent on them and call your parents ten times a day-- the issue in NOt whether you live with your parents or family members but
are you happy with your life? If your brother is satisfied living with your parents and doesn't feel like it impedes upon his life, then why are you so against it? How do you know how he feels? My aunt had the same mentality as you, that it's wrong to live w/ your parents after graduation, that it's "immature" so she rented this appartment in the city and was absolutely MISERABLE and realized living away was not for her. It had nothing to do with her maturity level, but she simply did not want to live alone or with a stranger off of Craig's List. I graduated from college, am working and living at home and am very independent. Please don't judge people, especially your brother, so critically.

(3) Rick, September 16, 2002 12:00 AM

Living w/ parents is immature & unacceptable

After graduating from college, a person should not be living at home unless he/she is unemployed/underemployed or has some other serious issue. Even then, living at home should be considered a temporary, emergency arrangement and a plan-of-action with specific milestones should be in place for the adult child to become independent ASAP. Living at home seriously inhibits personal growth and maturity.

Note that I am differentiating between an adult child living w/ their parents versus elderly parents living w/ their children. The latter is fine, the former is socially unacceptable and for good reason.

Jewish parents tend to be far too lenient in this regard and they are unintentionally causing substantial harm to their children. I believe that many Jewish parents are themselves immature and unable to find purpose/security in life without their adult children. Many women on this forum have asked why Jewish men are so far behind their female counterparts in terms of maturity - well, excessive parental coddling has a lot to do with it. My older brother and parents are in precisely this situation and neither have changed or matured for the past 20 years - actually they have probably digressed. Although my brother is physically a man, he is emotionally a little boy and consequently is completely unqualified to be any modern women's husband.

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