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Dating Maze #244 -  Turbulent Childhood
Dating Advice 244

Dating Maze #244 - Turbulent Childhood

Does having dysfunctional parents mean he'll become that type of adult?

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Dear Rosie & Sherry,

I'm in my early 20s and live at home with my parents. I have dated a number of young men, but didn't feel any of them were right for me. Recently, I met a young man who is a few years older than me. His parents are divorced and he lives with a very fine family who are relatives of his.

This is the first guy that I actually like and am attracted to. I feel so comfortable talking to him, and it seems like all our values for life and family match up really well.

Unfortunately, after a few weeks, my parents found out things about his parents' divorce that caused them great concern. The three children in the family went to live with their relatives when they were teenagers because their parents had a volatile and violent relationship.

When my parents heard this, they immediately said that they do not want me to continue to date him. They explained that a person's family and roots are extremely important, and that if he experienced such a traumatic situation, he will have a much harder time building and maintaining a happy and stable marriage. They say that patterns repeat themselves, and that if I were to ever marry him he could end up abusing me and my children. They think that if I were to marry this guy, it would be a huge risk and I would really be "settling."

However, I truly feel that this guy is one of a kind. He is very close to his rabbi, and I think it is good that he has such a mentor. I also feel that even though his background wasn't a healthy one, he has put himself in really good surroundings and is positively influenced by his relatives.

My parents though, don't even want to hear of it, and that has gotten us into a huge disagreement. They say they will not support me if I decide to continue seeing this guy. I don't want to go behind their backs, but I really don't know what to do.

I need some really good advice here.

Molly

Dear Molly ,

Let's first discuss you parents' worries about your courtship. It is valid that they are concerned about anyone who may come into their family. For that reason we think it is wise to find out important details about potential dating partners as early as possible, for example:

  • a person's short and long-term goals
  • his character traits and behaviors
  • his worldview and how Judaism fits into that
  • how he gets along with other people and who his friends ar
  • e
  • if he is emotionally stable
  • how he relates to his family
  • the family environment he grew up in

Now regarding your specific case:

Many men and women who grew up in tumultuous homes with little marital harmony can be wonderful marriage partners and parents. However, because human beings tend to learn behaviors from what they observed and experienced when they were growing up, a person who was raised in a difficult family situation is at risk for modeling his own behavior after that of his parents. This may not necessarily manifest at the beginning of a marriage, but possibly years later. For example, a man whose father abandoned the family may vow never to do the same to his own wife and children, but he still may unconsciously emulate this behavior years down the road, when a job loss or mid-life crisis triggers unresolved emotions from his childhood. We are not going to discuss the different theories about why this happens, but we have seen that it does happen -- and there seems no way to predict which adults will react this way and which will not.

That doesn't mean that someone from a difficult family situation can never overcome this challenge. As we've said, a good many are able to do so very well. But it doesn't happen with the snap of a finger or just because someone wills it to. Once again, there is no way to tell whether someone from a troubled family will encounter difficulties because of unresolved issues. However, we have seen many such individuals succeed in their marriages because they have worked with a competent mental health professional to resolve the issues that arose from their upbringing.

These issues can include feelings of abandonment, betrayal, neglect, anger toward a parent, depression, witnessing verbal or physical abuse of a parent or sibling, being the victim of such abuse, or sexual abuse in the family. An individual can unconsciously suppress thoughts and emotions related to these experiences and not know how to deal with them if they eventually surface.

Even someone who is aware of his feelings about his difficult childhood and has developed coping mechanisms to help deal with them, may encounter problems if at some point in time the coping mechanism breaks down and leads to a personal crisis. Professional therapists have been specially trained to help clients become aware of their thoughts and emotions, understand them, resolve them, and gain closure. (A self-help book or an individual without clinical training, such as a counselor or rabbi, cannot provide the necessary guidance.) This is the best way an individual can keep from modeling undesirable behaviors he observed while growing up.

In our professional opinions, someone who grew up in a tumultuous or difficult family situation should work to resolve these issues with a help of a therapist, before he or she marries. We would make this recommendation even for people who seem to be "fine" at this point in their lives, so that they have the proper emotional tools to build and sustain a strong and healthy marriage from the very start. (Therapy can also be helpful after marriage, but the optimal time is beforehand.)

Some Investigation

Now let's get back to your parents' objections to your dating this young man. We would suggest that instead of dismissing him outright, you ask more questions. Once you and you parents have more information, you will be in a better position to decide whether to continue dating him. You should try to find out:

  • How did he and his siblings come to live with their relatives? Did they ask to move there? Were they forced to move there?
  • How did he react to leaving his home -- sadness, feelings of abandonment, regret, relief, happiness?
  • How does he cope with difficult situations -- e.g. anger, stress, frustration?
  • What kind of a home environment do his relatives provide?
  • What has he done to deal with the difficult home life he was exposed to during his formative years?
  • How does he get along with the relatives who have raised him? Siblings?
  • Does he have a relationship with each of his parents? What is it?
  • Has there been family therapy?

These questions sound very intrusive, but they have to be asked, since the answers are critical in determining whether or not to build a future with him.

You may decide that the wisest decision will be to stop going out with this young man. We know how hard that decision will be, and it will take you some time to get over the break-up and move forward, However, the fact that you met someone you could admire and connect to, even though he wasn't right for other reasons, can give you encouragement that the right man is out there.

On the other hand, you may find that this man has worked very hard to resolve the issues of his childhood. The fact that he has a mentor (his rabbi) for whom he has high regard, is a positive sign of someone understands that there are people who are wiser than him, and that he has someone to turn to with questions.

This guy could turn out to be a real gem who will be a terrific husband and father. And that's something even your parents can feel good about.

Rosie & Sherry

Published: November 17, 2007


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Visitor Comments: 39

(39) Faith, December 22, 2011 4:14 AM

G-d hates ugly and this is ugly!

When I read this article I thought of that saying "G-d hates ugly" and I have to say this is ugly. I can't believe this guy is treated like leper because he came from a broken home. He's interrogated and picked over to prove he is good partner. He clearly sounds like he is working through things and already better than his parents. And yet you continue to shame him for his parent's wrong doing. I also think the assumption that people from a "stable 2 parent house hold" are better partners is naive and ignorant. I have known several people that came from such homes and were destructive in their relationships and snapped under pressure as spoke of in the article. Finally, as Moshe said in an earlier comment be careful of opressing the orphan. G-d takes that very seriously. Examine your own heart before you begin superficially judging people.

(38) Anonymous, April 1, 2009 1:26 PM

Some advice

Molly, with all the sympathy and love the world has to offer, after reading about the disproportionate reaction your parents had to this poor boy, and again with all due respect to your predicament, I wouldn't be so sure that you yourself aren't the one whom needs to be dissected for healthy psychological approval. Keep in mind Molly, just because ones parents aren't divorced doesn't mean the child necessarily received superior upbringing. After reading your ambiguity regarding your parent's statement, perhaps you are not psychologically fit for him?

(37) Sam, April 1, 2009 12:49 PM

It's just really sad

I'm sixteen years old, a boy, and from a divorced family. My parent's divorced when I was twelve, and I am really left with no one who cares for me. My Mom is diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder and she left me when I was 14 after unsuccessfully trying to ruin my life. My dad was and is still there for me financially but to be honest I just don't think he knows how to parent. He always comes to me with his financial and social problems and I am left to comfort him. Anyway I don't think I have any serious emotional issues anymore, I enjoy learning Torah and Gemarah a lot, but I guess I do subconsciously you guys are right. I just think it stinks that I had to grow up without a family and now I also probably shouldn't have my own family when I get older and have to stay alone. Please pray that Hashem should be with us as I don't want to ruin someone else's family but am still very lonely all the time. Please let me know if you have any advice for me. Deep down though, I really hope the girl marries him and gives him a chance because maybe they can make a lasting family and loving family and while I may be wrong I think he deserves a chance, how can I not?

(36) Ari, April 1, 2009 11:06 AM

Misinterpreted Stats about Divorce

A detailed book researching children of divorced parents titled "Divorce" by Alison Clarke-Stewart and Cornelia Brentano found that while they are twice as likely AS A WHOLE to become divorced themselves, the children that do indeed survive divorce actually exceed their non-divorced counterparts. It very often is a make or break scenario- where the majority of them break. It's like not choosing a child from a divorced family to be on your debate team because the average grade of children from divorced homes is a low 75%- when 1/3 score an average of 90% while the other 2/3 score an average of 60%. Consequently, the children of divorced families are polarized, they are for the most part either inferior or superior to the average person. I suppose you now must ask yourself- which side of the fence does the man you love lie?

(35) Moshe, April 1, 2009 9:06 AM

Shocked by comments

I am stunned, not only did this poor boy who grew up without a real family miss out on his childhood, but now people like you are jeopardizing his chances at parenthood as well. What ever happened to "do not oppress the orphan." Moshe was raised by Goyim, Rabbi Akivah by an am ha aretz, Avraham Avinu by the top idle manufacturer of the day, no one wanted King David before he was appointed King because they all thought he had bad yichus. Overcoming challenge makes us BETTER spouses, better people, not more disturbed ones. I would consider such a person MORE suitable for marriage, not less. How is this not a deoreita prohibition of oppressing the orphan? One thing I'd put my money on is that the authors of this article don't come from divorced families.

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