Move-to-Israel Filters

My prayers will be with you. I hope you make it safely and happily to Israel real soon!

I disagree strongly with the anonymous poster who stated that "I feel sorry for children deprived of extended family because of the parents' needs." Moving to Israel is most important for the children, who will grow up in a Jewish environment, with fluent Hebrew and a much better Jewish education than they could get anywhere in the states. My friends whose parents moved here ALL agree with me: they love their lives in Israel, and wouldn't trade it for anything. Certainly they don't see their parents' decision to come here as a selfish one at all. Yes, it's very sad when family don't see the importance of living in Israel and therefore miss the chance to see their grandchildren as frequently. But parents making aliya give their children the irreplacable gift of growing up in the Jewish homeland, and as painful as it might be, the sacrifice is 100% worth it. Besides, it is the 21st century--there are always airplanes, email, and ridiculously cheap overseas calls for keeping in touch.

I want to make Aliyah, I have also been doing some major house cleaning, getting rid of things I would not take. The road block that keeps me here is my soon to be ex-husband... Our dauhter will be 11 next month and I know he would not let me take her till she is older. My daughter wants to make Aliyah,
so we plan and dream till the day we can leave and join every one in our home land.

Thank for Alls, My dream of moving to Israel is having a profound affect on how I live now.

My ancestors finished immigrating to Canada and the US by 1905. Well, except for my grandmother (now 86) who was born in the States and immigrated to Canada when she married my Grandfather at 25. She never learned to speak Yiddish because her mother wanted 'Americans not Greeners."

All of my Great Uncles on her side fought in ww2 for the Americans. All five of the kids in that family including Bubby graduated from University with a minimum of a Bachelor's degree.

On the Canadian side, we lost my great Uncle Albert to ww2 when the bomber he was flying was shot down over Germany.

In our house, Remembrance Day on November 11 is a big deal. I am grateful that my family's only known casualty in ww2 died a hero. My heart breaks for the losses of the six million and also reminds me how lucky we were to be here during the second world war. There are those who pathetically think that somehow we think we are better because we are grateful to have been spared the anguish on a blood related level, but we are just grateful that the death toll did not include us.

That having been said, there is a part of me that would consider making Aliyah. Still, we moved to Boston for two years, and THAT was a challenge, so it remains a consideration and I do not know that that will ever change, but I do know that i was glad to have returned to Canada before my husband's father suffered for two years with palliative care and terminal cancer. Visits would just not have cut it.

Its a big deal to be here and to have history here. Its a big deal to make aliyah. Hey, its a big deal to be Jewish, and I do yearn for a place where my holidays are the national holidays, but for now, that is not enough to separate me from my parents and siblings and in laws. I guess if maschiach comes we will all go together...

We only have a few ties left here, one being my husband's aging parents. My eldest is married and has a family but has spoken of aliyah also. I was saving to purchase property and your article made me stop and think. Do I really plan to make aliyah? How can I if what I am saving for is more property here! So perhaps in my mind I know I need to aliyah but in my heart I don't have commitment yet? I also need to start cleaning. Shift that mindset and start planning. We need to get there before the rest of our children are grown. They range in age from 15 to 5 so that doesn't leave much room. I don't plan to leave anyone here. See I am already shifting. Thank you for the help.

One important part of this article is the fact that the author mentions that her children's grandparents and great-grandparents are in America. Israel has many, many positives, but it won't provide a grandparent to come to the school on grandparents day. It won't provide a grandparent to join the holiday dinner table, or each Shabbat. Take it from those of us who don't have grandparents for our children - there is NOTHING that is worth depriving children of that connection - and long distance calls and email won't cut it. I feel sorry for children deprived of extended family because of the parents' needs.

In response to earlier comments, I don't think Ms. Eisenstein is any less grateful or patriotic but there is no getting around that US national holidays such as xmas are not "our" holidays.

Dear Amy,

I made Aliyah when I was 13, and I am now 35 and a father of five children, Baruch Hashem.

I found your article very moving, and I would like to add one more point to consider.

Some people try to "sell" Israel as something it is not. Israel is not an easy place to live, things aren't all about Jewish spirituality and goodness, some people are simnply nasty. But the one thing I can say about Israel is that this land is OURS. And Israel - the land, is in desperate need of one thing: Israel - the people. God did not give Am Yisrael His land for nothing; He meant for us to live here as a nation, to thrive, to build, to be a "light unto the nations." So we're not doing so well in that department? The best way to influence things here is simply to live here. Committed, moral Jews are so desperately needed today in Israel - every single person is critical.

I know it is not easy to leave behind everything that ties Jews to their Diaspora homes, but I believe that every Jew who loves God and loves His nation will ultimately find their way back home. Please try to return as soon as you can.

With love,
Avi P.

Five years ago we came to Israel the day after our Sheva Brachot. Once we got here, we realized that we were totally not ready for moving to Israel. So we came back to the states for nine months got out act together and then made Aliyah properly. Your article reminds me so much of those nine months in America when our apartment consisted of a bed, table and two folding chairs. We lived like this on purpose so that we would be able to hop on a plane when we were ready to go back. It was the best thing that we did! We had friends our age next door that also wanted to move to Israel, however, her recently deceased GrandMother had left her with a huge lot of beautiful antiques. They didn't have enough money to transport the items to Israel and yet they (understandably) did not want to give it away because it had sentimental value. Needless to say, they are still there .... five years later.

Except for the occasional clothes-shopping at Loehmans and Century21, we didn't buy anything that would 'weigh' us down to getting back here. Now that we have settled down and our apartment, lives, etc are sorted out we have taken the time to shop for furniture, china, etc. all the things that most couples get immediately after getting married. We go back to the states at least once a year to visit family and always bring back a ton of stuff that we can't get here.

Life here is awesome! Don't wait to long to come here. As a family friend said to me recently, "I want to live in Israel, not die there." Life is short. Don't spend the best years of your life in America .... even in a place as wonderful and beautiful as Seattle :)

Some have clothing in their closets to be worn only when moshiach arrives. Go as soon as you can and visit family and have them visit you as often as possible.

Thank You Amy!

Your article is an inspiration to those of us who are in that same i-am-making-aliya-but-not-quite-yet boat. It is so easy to loose that Israel bound focus in the day-to-day of our very comfortable American lives; viewpoints such as yours are always helpful reminders.

May you and your family have a beautiful, blessed life in Israel very soon, together with the rest of the Jewish people.

I am going to start cleaning right now!

My friend Jane told me that her daughter wanted to sign up for a Hebrew class in school, but Jane told her to sign up for Spanish instead. I responded: "Why? Does Mashiach speak Spanish? What if he comes tonight, you will have to up and go, why does she need Spanish?"
The truth is that the way you live is the only way to live. My walls are empty, I hang no paintings. I don't care for furniture or curtains. I want to be ready to jump and go as soon as I can - and that may be a while. My husband is very attached to everything in the US, and the day he changes his mind is the day I will book the tickets. I have no material attachments - I am always ready to go. Just grab my son and my dog, a toothbrush and a change of clothes - I don't need anything else.
Thank you for validating me.

Yes, This is my country. Jews have fought, died, struggled to make the USA what it is today. To say it is not our country is plain wrong. Israel is also our country, but that does not mean the US is not.

Dear Amy,
As long as you were born in the US, and reap the benefits of living here, The United States of America is still your country. Moving to Israel is a wonderful thing to do, but it is not for everyone and if you think that all of your problems will be solved by moving there, please think about why you are really leaving the US. Do you honestly love Israel with all of your heart and soul and can you honestly say to one and all that you don't think that the US is "Our Country"? That is total ingratitude. If you eventually move to Israel, I hope you do with total honesty as to why you are doing so.
Best of luck to you and yours.

Thanks Amy, I'm going to look at my piles with new insight -- 10 boxes to the Goodwill next week! We've faced the same arguments of going or not going, while we accumulate junk. B'H, one day sooner than later we'll all be there together.

An acquaintance forwarded this article to me, and it really resonated. I hope to live in Israel, too someday. I'm currently in grad school in the US. The passport comment reminded me that when I first entered a secular educational environment after high school, my mother helped me reframe my culture shock by suggesting that I view myself as a foreign student. Although I was living more locally than many of the other students, our values, experiences and priorities were miles, if not worlds, apart.

If you really want to go, go-even if it's for a finite period.

It's odd how Israel calls even to those of us with a tiny amount of Jewish blood flowing through our veins; I can't really call myself Jewish although I have Jewish ancestry, but I still feel drawn to Israel-how much more would a 'real Jew' feel this urge to 'go home' ?

Amy & her husband should go if this is what feels right, even if only for a few years.

I have a folding television tray for a bedside table too, but not for that reason; it's a nice wooden one that is a perfect size & shape!

I have written into my calendar that next week is total housecleaning. That means clothes closets (all the things I think will come back into style if I hold onto them long enough), books, books, books; records, CDs, VCRs, and anything I think my children will ebay and not keep when I am gone. I guess I can ebay that stuff myself and take a trip to Israel. What a concept! Thank you.

I appreciate everything that the author wrote, except for the statement: "... but, at the end of the day this is not our country." If you were born here, than America is your country, for better or worse. As Jews, we strive to live permanently in Israel. Regardless of this, America, warts and all, is your country if you were born here, and this idea should still be respected.

Amy's article is wonderful and many of us American Jews identify with it! I want to encourage her to make aliyah while the children are young. SOMEONE has to do it! If she does, her children will grow up Israeli. Someone in the family has to be the inspiration. Yes, some will stay behind, but many will follow! Our best response to terrorism is aliyah.