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April 14, 2007
July 22, 2010 10:27 AM
A Holocaust film is only good if accurate!
There have been so many holocaust films; some good, some not. Many want to show a certain aspect, and indeed there were so many, and as it really was, the holocaust brought the worst and the best in mankind. So much unfathomable cruelty and so much heroism; just from everyday people! Some films want to tug at people´s hearts at the expense of becoming sensational, over sentimental, and sometimes completely wrong. The danger here is that in a few generations, people may get the idea that the Holocaust wasn´t so bad after all, and all these stories of six million dead can´t be true! As the group of Shoah survivors becomes smaller every year, it´s so important that their stories are all heard. There needs to be experts and historians to research and check their facts before they let the cameras roll.
March 6, 2009 9:48 PM
It's pretty funny/ironic that she has won her first oscar for a role in a holocaust movie (The Reader)...
March 31, 2008 1:42 PM
Could asking this question be institutionalized antisemitist
Are there...Enough war films? Enough love comedies?Enough Christmas movies?Enough summer Camp movies?Enough slavery films?Enogh narcotics smuggling films. The holocaust is a tough-gripping phenomenon still in our midst. It's not just a Jewish historical reality, but also a global one which involved and effected the world! It is implicitly anti-semitic to pose this question. It's as if to say the mouring should be complete, the Jewish complaining over. No, the holocaust is a living infective reality, only partially healed.
December 12, 2007 4:03 AM
No, in fact there will never be enough
unfortunately most of our grandparents, holocaust survivors are beggining to pass away, and i believe with that as a result of this sad truth comes that cost of even more deniers of the holocaust because there will be no survivors around to tell their stories. this is why i believe it is so important to continue to spread the atrocities of this event for the future generations who were not born in time to meet these amazing people who are no longer in the world with us.
December 3, 2007 6:09 PM
I'm an actor
I'm an actor and quite honestly I can see some of the empty headed people in my biz doing just this. Ahemmmmmmm!
August 6, 2007 1:15 PM
No, there are not too many Holocaust films
We never had so much money and chances to show the world -special the young people- what people can do to each other.We can learn from that, that we have to choose who we want to be. Not "order is order" must be the drive, but "I want to be a good person"
July 23, 2007 2:38 PM
I don't get it...the clip that is. No, there are not too many movies about the holocaust. I just have a hard time watching them. I have to be with the right people at the right time.
July 6, 2007 7:00 PM
I don't care how many, but how good? I've seen at least a dozen, and found most (including Spielberg's) not worth the time. I'd be more interested in hearing from people here how they evaluate holocaust films. What makes the good ones good, and the others not so much?
July 6, 2007 1:18 AM
No. But they don't ALL need to WIN Oscars!
It's important to educate through film. But it seems pretty political that they always win.
June 30, 2007 2:34 PM
There will never be enough written, never enough films. The Shoah most be kept in the fore front of everyone's mind. Because it keeps happening over and over again. We must continue to write about it, make films about it, educate about it, until it stops happening every where in the world.
June 19, 2007 9:34 AM
There will never be too many Holocaust films!
May 29, 2007 12:14 PM
We want more
No,I think there should be many more. I myself wrote a book about my holocaust, it has been published and it would make a wonderful movie. But it never came into Spielbergs hands, only the Foundation in Argentina. We all know the reason of the Oscars, arent we all jews in Hollywood? Still de Pianist is superb and they shoul make many more films of the kind. Primo Levy..superb too, and so many to come.
May 3, 2007 2:29 AM
If there are scripts...
The Holocaust is just the most recent and largest of the pogroms that have been inflicted on Jews merely for being Jewish for hundreds of years.. If there are scripts that can present Judaism to non-Jews in an way that produces empathy and understanding, and combats mindless anti-Semitism, keep making Shoah films, and films about the vitality of Jewish life generally.. People of Jewish faith/ancestry are so few in a world of 6.5 billion people, and racist stereotyping needs to be addressed whenever it arises.
May 3, 2007 12:55 AM
Never forget!!!! What they did to us!
May 2, 2007 10:42 AM
In my opinion, it must be an ongoing thing. Especially in schools should they be in constant programming. The films should be shown to mixed audiences. Too bad that our own youth seems to have turned away from this important part of our future.Mitch
May 1, 2007 2:25 PM
many issues involved
There are two major issues involved with "popularizing" the Holocaust. First, I feel uneasy when such a horribly profound event becomes part of the popular culture - thereby diminishing that event's impact. Personally, I found the documentary "Shoah" the most striking film about the Holocaust that I have ever seen. I have to admit that I even felt uneasy when I toured the US Holocaust Museum - the ugliness of the event seemed too sanitized in that institution for my sensibilities. When I heard a mother tell her 10 year old "look, Billy, this is how they killed all the Jews" I felt my skin crawl.Second is the the very difficult issue of guilt from Jews to a world that allowed the Holocaust to occur and how that guilt has impacted the legitimization of the State of Israel. The Arab world and much of the left wants to deny the legitimacy of Israel, and so they deny the Holocaust - an event which has now become a fixture of Western popular culture. Jewish migration back to Eretz Yisroal began long before the Holocaust, and more than half the Jewish Israelis are from non-Western countries - but that no longer is taken into account. I feel that the more the Holocaust is presented and "interpreted" by our media, the more the Arab nations will deny the existence of this horrendous event partly because it has been fictionalized so much.I know that Spielberg felt a deep sense of responsibilty and honor when he made Schindler's List, and it is a beautifully done motion picture. I'm just not sure that using the Holocaust as a backdrop for fictionalized mass entertainment is such a good idea.
April 21, 2007 4:19 PM
Think what any of those who DIED would say! Would they want the history to repeat? Would they want the horror to be forgotten? same? Do you want it to repeat for YOUR CHILDREN?NO, there will NEVER be too much of films on Holocaust.We are already starting to forget - which is the safest way to repeat it all again. G-d forbid!Zora Rothbauer
April 21, 2007 2:02 PM
There will NEVER be enough Holocaust films!! Walk into "any" film rental store and there are shelves upon shelves of HORROR stories and more being made almost daily. The Holocaust story tho, is real ..and needs to be remembered ALWAYS!
April 20, 2007 5:37 PM
How can you not tell of another's suffering, when there are those who deny it even happened? Who point of view is this question? A Jew? A Gentile? Is it one that may have seen so many films that there callous to the reality of it? It is the young that need to see the tragedy, so they will know the capability of humans and make sure it is not repeted.
April 20, 2007 4:48 PM
I haven`t expected to find this kind of "humor" on Jewlarious, much less on Aish, we the vast majority of the readers of Aish.com are Jewish people....so whatÂ´s to discuss? the stupidity of the writers of that idiotic show?..well thats actually proven
April 20, 2007 7:46 AM
And the winner is...
I would give her an oscar for this little perfomance here. I was convinced.
April 19, 2007 1:10 AM
April 18, 2007 7:54 PM
Can't you read!
I am sorry, but I have been reading all these comments about people either shocked that Kate Winslet would say such things or curious if this is fiction. It says very clearly at the start of the clip "Extras" and what episode and when it aired. Is that not clear enough! This is a great segment of Jewlarious and has obviously sparked great discussion ALIZA and company. You mention that the AISH audience may not have TV's. Fine, but do they know how to read? Come on!
April 18, 2007 4:52 PM
Never too many!
Apparently there is no saturation level on the making of holocaust films. Just look at the rise of denials of history going on right now.This is evidence of the need for more movie makers to completely explore what has taken place.
April 18, 2007 1:47 PM
Identification of these clips as fiction is important
To the editors of this series: I think the idea of these clips to inspire comment and discussion is an interesting one. I do, however, strongly feel that these clips need to be identified - perhaps a paragraph above the video - as clips from a FICTIONAL film or tv series, as well as the show. Clips such as this one are obviously misunderstood. Especially when a fair number of Aish's readers don't watch tv or movies. How many people saw this, unfortunately assumed Kate Winslet meant these comments, before the editor's comment about this being from a tv show was posted? Her reputation is now irreperably damaged in at least a few people's eyes.That's not worth the discussion the clips inspire.
April 18, 2007 1:31 PM
My First Airplane
The idea that there are too many movies about the Shoah reminds me of my Grade One teacher's take on airplane sightings. When a group of us were gawking at an airplane flying overhead, she exclaimed, "Haven't you seen an airplane before?" In fact, I hadn't, because I was six years old and had never lived under an airplane path. The Shoah has been part of our history for less time than airplanes have, and it's good to remember that for many people, especially the young, it's still new.
April 18, 2007 3:48 AM
There are never enough holocaust films
The message cannot ever be clear enough and therefore there's no such thing as too many Holocaust films.We can see in just over 60 years people are denying it even happened and are also planning the next one - Ahmadinejad and Iran.
April 18, 2007 2:55 AM
Not enough good Holocaust films
The Holocaust is NOT a fable and NOT a issue to be flippant about. I saw "Schindler's List" and never want to see it again! I don't feel Schindler was a hero; he was made out to be by Speilberg. Speilberg was glorifying a Nazi! Shame on you, Mr Speilberg. Also the film was made with a lot of shock value, presumably so the viewers wouldn't get bored and fall asleep. That's Hollywood for you. "Life is Beautiful" was a wonderfully done film: the poignancy, the loyalty of the wife, to refuse to be left behind and joined him, even though she didn't have to, the father's sacrificing his life for his son's safety and the touching reunion at the end of the film. I cry every time I tell the story to one who has never seen it.
April 17, 2007 9:36 PM
This has to be a spoof, but seriously, there can never be enough movies, or any other form of media that documents an atrocity performed, regardless of who the perpetrators and victims were.
April 17, 2007 6:31 PM
There are never enough Holocaust movies and books. The world must know what has happened and never forget.
April 17, 2007 5:28 PM
Perhaps, but we should have more moviews dealing....
with the affects of assimilation prior to and post WW II in the diaspora, acxcording to a good friend of mine: and I agree.I would venture to say that we have lost more Jews via assimilation in the past 100 yrs. than we did during the entire shoah.
April 17, 2007 5:23 PM
This shows what kind of person she is. Trying to live off of other peoples misery.Considering how the world is trying to forget or rewrite history we need to keep showing Holocaust movies.
April 17, 2007 3:54 PM
Yes I do
There have been many movies about this. The more times we tell the story badly, the more it detracts from the hate. The more times we tell the story the more it people become deaf to it.
April 17, 2007 3:20 PM
thank you, Editor, for the 'Note'
I didn't know anything about this movie or the clip form 'Extras'. It does, however, bring to the forefront that some people (not necessarly Winslet) will do anything to get a head and it makes no difference to them who's backs they have to step on to do so. It happens everywhere and this is a good visual reminder that we need to do our part and stop it from continuing when we can. If this were real what kind of impact do you think would have been made had either one of those 'actors' taken a stand told Winslet that her attempt to get her Oscar by using that film was not a good thing to do?
April 17, 2007 2:04 PM
No I don't think there can be too many!
I think we need to constantly be reminded of the horror, because if not the world in all it's hatefulness could repeat it.
April 17, 2007 1:26 PM
I'm not sure why this is in Jewlarious. It's certainly not funny. If you say that it's from a fictional television program, does that mean that Kate didn't really mean it?
April 17, 2007 12:20 PM
too many self-hating liberal Jews as producers Directors
eg. Munich - anti semetic - glorifying the palastine evil!Schindler's list glorifying a Nazi!Life is beautiful - Now there is a wonderful piece of work - No Hollywood smuck involved in the actual production,It would have done extremely well, by word of mouth, even witout the Oscars!
April 17, 2007 12:19 PM
this made me sick. is the British guy Jewish?
April 17, 2007 9:00 AM
fail to find humor
i do enjoy kate winslet as an actress, but fail to find even the slightest humor in this "extra" to promote discussion. I don't know why evil can exist in the dpeths and widths it does, but to generate response of how atrocities occur can only serve, hopefully, and in some ways to prevent them. Consider Hotel Rwanda, and even what happens right now in Darfur. Even Blood Diamonds helps to expose darkness. We are lights aflame and our duty is to expose darkness and let it be seen as that, so others will not fall prey. If people look away--well, we have learned what can happen from that.
April 17, 2007 8:19 AM
Ms. Winslet's comments are truly moronic. She believes that has to do a Holocaust movie to get the Oscar she so richly deserves. "Everybody knows about the Holocaust, so let's move on." Duh!
April 17, 2007 7:33 AM
One visit was enough ...
My father was Polish and I visited Majdanek with him in 1967 when I was 13yrs old. It was his first visit back to Poland since the war. I blacked out in the camp due to shock and I rarely spoke about it until I was 37yrs old. Neither did my father. Films? I've never seen any nor have I wanted to see any. Too painful for some to watch and even too painful for second generations like myself. But they do have their place especially for those who were not directly involved in the holocaust who may still today for whatever reason find it hard to believe such things happened. But for those who were involved and who lost family, personally I don't think we need to see the films. We know.
April 16, 2007 5:11 PM
Need translated into Arabic and other languages
The heroes of the Holocaust, teach us how to be better people. The enemies and murderers, who are represented in these movies, teach us about how not to be. There are so many stories that need to be told. We may have many, but the message is really not getting into many countries, therefore, we need to translate into other languages, such as Arabic. I really worry about the anti-Semitism being generated in the Arab world, and feel that not enough is being done, to get beyond the islamnofacist propaganda. This is not to speak about all, at all, but those in particular, who back terrorists and Iran. We could be reaching the younger generation, so they grow up more tolerant and understanding -- AND most of all, against being evil.
April 16, 2007 4:52 PM
Who is Kate Winslet?
Who she is unimportant but the message is. Unfortunately the people who need to watch will not!
April 16, 2007 3:14 PM
If you want to know more about the show check out the wiki siteen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extras_(TV_series)
April 16, 2007 1:53 PM
Did she really say something like this? I doubt someone would be so blunt about it...
April 16, 2007 12:55 PM
Too Many Holocaust films?
I think when you live in a time that has significant concentrations of people that truly believe that this event never occured, you cannot have too many Holocaust films.
April 16, 2007 12:06 PM
I believe that we need to keep making movies, writing books, and gathering the stories of the survivors so that the world will never do to any other people what was done to the Jews. Never again to the Jews or any other people.
April 16, 2007 9:35 AM
What's wrong with too many holocaust films..that's how I learn the happenings with jewish people. thank you.
April 16, 2007 7:23 AM
No there are not too many, the Holocaust must have more diffusion, but must be good quality films like the Schlindler list or The Piano, never will be to many, this issue is very key issue for the humankind, especially now with menaces like Chavez or Almadinejad
April 16, 2007 6:37 AM
NOTE FROM THE EDITOR
From the editor:
This clip is from "Extras" -- a fictional television program. It's purpose is to provoke discussion. Thank you for your continued comments.
April 16, 2007 12:35 AM
NO! Awareness is not a bad thing.
With the Moslums in England denying the Holocaust, and Iran's president denying, we need true information out there.
April 15, 2007 10:44 PM
I think not. Especially , those that stir the soul.
The Holocaust must be remembered always.When will the world learn its lesson. We have not yet, so any movie, book or documentary to remind us of the evil that the world is capable of need to be seen.
April 15, 2007 10:19 PM
No. Must be relivant reminders, not sensationalism.
Movies about the holocaust need to remind us that anything can happen to any country governmentally if the people allow it. They need to teach us to be be bold against fear and death since we're all going to die anyway. Quit ye like men.
April 15, 2007 9:17 PM
Never too many, if done in good taste.
There can never be enough Holocaust movies-maybe one for each person who died. That's six million, if you only count the Jewish victims. But, they have to be truthful. Oh yes, there is always some dramatic license. But looking at "Schindler's List," that license was minor compared to the story that was told and the impact that this one movie made.
April 15, 2007 8:39 PM
No, not so far.
So far the true Holocaust based films have been made in good taste (at least the ones that I have seen) and have not been too numerous.
April 15, 2007 8:17 PM
Kate Winslet should never receive any award, who does she think she is? I hope they keep making movies and articles to let future generations know just what was done and could happen again!
April 15, 2007 8:16 PM
no. people should never forget the inhumanity of man to man
Ma. del Consuelo de Sabre,
April 15, 2007 6:57 PM
There will be never enough Holocaust films in order that the world understand what really happened.And it is so difficult to show the reality of those times.
April 15, 2007 5:48 PM
Would like to know if this is a spoof or is it for real? Disheartening in either case: A very sick joke, or a cynical perspective.
April 15, 2007 5:14 PM
Maybe six million and one would be too many.
April 15, 2007 4:45 PM
The facial expression on the woman facing Winslet!
I would love to know who she is. I don't think I've ever seen such a expression in my life! She really seem horrified.
April 15, 2007 4:31 PM
is this a joke? did she really say those words?? maybe we need more movies that give the right impact about the Holocaust
April 15, 2007 4:21 PM
no, in order to counteract the deniers
THERE IS NEVER TOO MUCH INFORMATION, DISCUSSION, NEWS ARTICLES, STUDY GROUPS, ETC. WHERE THE HOLOCAUST IS CONCERNED. THE ENORMITY OF 9 MILLION PEOPLE KILLED BOGGLES THE MIND. IT SEEMS THE WORLD HAS FORGOTTEN THE LESSON, OR NEVER LEARNED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. THERE ARE MASS KILLINGS ALL OVER THE GLOBE. BECAUSE OF A PERCEIVED DIFFERENCE IN HOW PEOPLE WORSHIP AND PRAY AND LIVE THEIR LIVES THE TERRORISTS MUST ELIMINATE THE OTHERS. ALSO THERE ARE PERSONS WHO DENY THAT THE HOLOCAUST EVEN TOOK PLACE. OUR GI SOLDIERS RESCUED CAMPS OF LIVING AND DEAD SKELETONS AND SAW THE OVENS WITH THEIR OWN EYES IN EUROPE.BUT THERE ARE REVERENDS AND PROFESSORS WHO ARE MAKING MONEY OUT OF DENYING THE EVENT TOOK PLACE. THIS EVIL MUST BE COUNTERACTED BY REINFORCING INFORMATION TO BE DISPENSED TO ALL. EDUCATION IS VALUABLE AND FACTS REFUTE THE LIES OF THE DENIERS.SO MOVIES ARE VERY NECESSARY AND THE MORE THE BETTER.
April 15, 2007 2:21 PM
As long as there is something to learn, it needs to be taught.
As historians uncover hidden documents, artifacts, etc., they need to be shared and preserved. I'm still waiting for a movie on the Polish community that killed Jews and blamed the Nazia (sorry - I can't spell the name). At the same time, I would love to see a movie recounting the Jewish experience of Bulgaria, which would show the impact of a country refusing to deport their Jewish citizens. We are far from being done with Holocaust movies and books.
April 15, 2007 1:54 PM
whatever it takes
I feel what ever it takes to leave the imprint of history on the next generation and the present genertion of Jew haters that would like nothing more than to deny the whole occurrance
April 15, 2007 1:45 PM
Is she for real? this must be a joke
I cant believe this is a real clip what is the source?
April 15, 2007 12:53 PM
There can never be too many Holocaust films
The Holocaust is an extremely "unpleasant" event(or series of events) that many people would rather not have to think about or be reminded of. However, there are so many ramifications of it, so many ways in which we need to both honor those murdered and guard against a similar process ever happening again. Movies help bring the human dimensions of the Holocaust to life so people can really experience and understand the horror and the incredible bravery of those caught up in it so that people are moved to prevent any manifestation of it occuring again.
April 15, 2007 11:44 AM
I think it is great that there are numerous movies about the Holocaust, we must never forget it happened and also our children must know that it did happen.
April 15, 2007 11:22 AM
There can never be too much information (or movies) on the Holocaust. But for every Jewish based movie on that horrible tragedy, someone should be making one that includes what happened to the millions of Soviets, and even non-Jew Germans consumed by Hitler's vicious insanity.
April 15, 2007 11:01 AM
The clip is funny. And there can never be too much exposure to the holocaust.
April 15, 2007 11:00 AM
We need to remain vigilant not to make our greatest contemporary tragedy into "Shoah Business"!
April 15, 2007 10:56 AM
Did she REALLY say that, or was it staged???? It sounds antisemetic to me........
April 15, 2007 10:53 AM
The World Will Never Learn
People have short memories. There can never be too many movies about the Holocaust. There have been multiple genecides since WWII and one going on in Darfur as I write this; yet once again the world is doing nothing.
April 15, 2007 10:39 AM
I THOUGHT IT TO BE A WEAK ATTEMPT AT SATIRE.
THE QUESTION SHOULD NOT BE ABOUT THE NUMBER OF HOLOCAUST FILMS. WHY DID IT TAKE SO LONG? DID MOST OF THE NAZI'S, THEIR SUPPORTERS THOUGHTOUT THE WORLD, AS WELL AS THEIR INNOCENT VICTIMS NEED TO DIE FIRST?I DO NOT THINK THAT THEIR ARE ENOUGH JEWISH CHARACTERS OF SUBTANCE ON TV, FILM ETC.WE ARE OVER REPRESENTED IN ALMOST EVERY AREA OF EXCELLANCE, NOBEL, FIELD PRIZES, THE LISTS GO ON AND ON.WHEN IT COMES TO PUTTING A STRONG AND HEROIC FACE ON A CHARACTER, LET US JUST SAY THAT EITHER THE STUDIOS OR THE GENERAL PUBLIC RATHER SEE JEWS AS VICTIMS.
April 15, 2007 10:36 AM
Because of limitations on my computer, I cannot listen or view the video, so I can't comment on it. However, to the question of whether we need more Holocaust films, the answer is an unfortunate yes. Why? Who on earth would ever have predicted that Holocaust denying would play the relatively prominent role that it has? Mel Gibson, the president of Iran, and many others who have loud voices need to be offset by the simple truth. You'd be amazed at how many Muslims and Arabs seriously doubt that the Holocaust existed. Absolutely mind-numbing.
April 15, 2007 10:13 AM
Come on, people, if Rickt Gervais's presence weren't enough! It's satire!
April 15, 2007 10:04 AM
As long as we have new generations, we must keep teaching the lessons of this awful time.
April 15, 2007 10:03 AM
Are there too many films about Vietnam?
There cannot be too many films about the Holocaust, as long as they are quality films. Each one has its own perspective, its own lessons. Did Clint Eastwood need to make more films about WWII? Thank G-d he chose to do so!
April 15, 2007 9:54 AM
Come on, guys! This is obviously a spoof!!! How else would we get this perfectly "filmed" snippet unless it was intentional...for a laugh, although not a funny one.
April 15, 2007 9:40 AM
Perspectives, there are many paradigms to explore. ie: from a Rabbi's point of view, from a Jewish officer's point of view, from a German mother's point of view, it is not fully explored
April 15, 2007 9:15 AM
just want to know if this is for real. IF it is it is truly sad that anyone would think like that. Quite a distored view.
April 15, 2007 9:05 AM
this is just a comedy show
If you watch this show "Extras" it is clear the characters & the real actors they deal with are just a caricature of themselves. You can't seriously think this is how they feel!
April 15, 2007 8:55 AM
I have loved Kate Winslow since her first movie, Heavenly Creatures, but just seeing this little snippet grossed me out. Does she think she is the greatest actor never to have won? Hardly. And isn't it a small step from blaming the fact that she didn't appear in a Jewish issue movie to blaming the Jews for her loss? Very sad.
April 15, 2007 8:23 AM
ARE KATE WINSLETT'S COMMENTS FOR REAL?
I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS VIDEO TO BE HER REAL FEELINGS ON THE SUBJECT OF HER AGREEING TO BE IN A FILM ON THE HOLOCAUST. IF SHE REALLY BELIEVES WHAT SHE SAID SHE IS TO BE PITIED FOR THE MORAL VOID SHE SHOWS WITHOUT THE SENSE TO REALIZE HOW HER WORDS COME ACROSS TO OTHERS LEAVING THEM PRACTICALLY SPEECHLESS, HER SELF-CENTERED SLANT ON ACTING IN A FILM DEPICTING THE HOLOCAUST, THE GREATEST TRAGEDY OF THIS CENTURY.
April 15, 2007 7:52 AM
think that's the wrong question
Whether or not there are too many films about the Holocaust is to me not at all the issue here. The driving force behind a studio producing a film is generally whether or not it will make money. What's more important is the nature of Winslett's response. iS piggy-backing on the holocaust an appropriate way to go about earning awards? I would be more concerned with that point.
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