# Jtube: Pi

Do you think hidden wisdom is contained in the Torah?

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(6) Anonymous, March 25, 2015 8:42 PM

pi is in the Torah

Rabbi Eliyahu of Vilna found the following source for Pi in the Torah.

The Gemora (ערובין י"ד) learns that pi equals 3 from the following verse (מלכים ז' כ"ג):

ויעש את הים מוצק עשר באמה משפתו עד שפתו עגול סביב... וקוה שלשים באמה יסוב אותו סביב
[Shlomo] made the "sea" of cast [metal] ten cubits from its lip to its lip, circular all around... and a thirty cubit line could encircle it all around.

In Halacha (i.e. size of a succah), pi is always considered to be 3. However, it is understood that this is an estimate. Tosfos points out that the number is not exact. The precise number can be found as follows. The word וקוה is read וקו, to mean "and a line" (referring to the circumference).

קוה = 111
קו = 106

The difference between the way it is written and the way it in read (ignoring the prefix vav - "and") equals the difference between 3 and pi.

106 / 111 = 3 / 3.1415

or:

3(111/106) = 3.1415

(5) Avi, May 20, 2014 8:15 PM

Mistranslations

עץ החיים is tree of life
גן עדן is the garden of eden whilst
קדם is or earlier or east,
BTW, where is this scene from?

decidlaverdad, August 25, 2015 8:59 PM

Pi is the name of a film

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi_(film)

(4) MABSH"Y, February 10, 2014 7:38 PM

Phi, not theta

*sigh* The writers did not do their homework. The golden ration is called Phi, not Theta.

(3) Henry, February 8, 2014 7:05 PM

Approximation of Pi

An even closer estimate of Pi is 355/133.

(2) Phil, February 6, 2014 9:23 PM

Don't be wowed by the wrong things.

I bet there *is* hidden wisdom in the Torah. But let's keep our findings to real wisdom, and not to purported hidden codes. These codes fail to impress people who have seen the following "wisdom" hidden in Hamlet. Jumble the letters of: "To be or not to be: that is the question, whether tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune." -- and you get:
"In one of the Bard's best-thought-of tragedies, our insistent hero, Hamlet, queries on two fronts about how life turns rotten."

Zachary Orenshein, January 2, 2016 11:01 PM

Actually...

Letter scrambles are easier than most people realize. A quick search on google can reveal many from various phrases, not just from eloquent writers. However, many of the messages that Gematria, the numerical value of hebrew letters, reveals is truly remarkable.

(1) Shmuel Shimshoni, January 27, 2014 4:56 PM

Creation on the basis of Pi

It came to me in a dream a couple of years ago -
Creation of the world was based upon Pi
Pi = 22/7, right?
22 letters of the Hebrew Alphabet during 7 days...
Shmuel

Eli, January 28, 2014 8:17 PM

creation of world based on PI

Not sure where your source is that the creation of the world is connected to PI - but creation actually took 6 days.

Pinny, February 3, 2014 5:10 AM

"Rest" was a creation, too.

7 days is correct. On the seventh day Hashem created the concept of "rest".

On the other hand, Pi is not really equal to 22/7. That is just a rough estimate. It is an irrational number i.e., it cannot be exactly expressed by a ratio of 2 rational numbers. A better estimate would be 333/106.

Yoel, February 4, 2014 4:40 PM

333/106

333/106 works as well
יחיד ומיוחד is the equivalent of 106 (the Creator)
קוד הבריאה is the equivalent of 333 (the secret of creation)

Hpela, February 7, 2014 2:40 PM

High five!

Way to go; love it.

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