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October 24, 2011
February 3, 2012 4:59 PM
revenge is a dish best served cold
In some cases revenge is justice
January 2, 2012 5:31 PM
revenge or repent
I am a child of holocaust survivors, my father is from Czechoslovakia. Practically his entire family was wiped out. I grew up with only one grandmother no grandfathers. As a teenager I was angry at the Nazis for murdering my family.
I would read a lot about WWII. I wanted revenge, so I wanted to become a Nazi hunter and join Simon Weisenthal (my favorite book was The House on Garibaldi St, Capturing Adolf Eichman ). But after high school I found a better way of getting revenge. I found myself in a yeshiva in Jerusalem and decided that by learning Torah, doing mitzvos I was becoming a better Jew. That is exactly what the Nazis wanted to prevent.
I was actually learning Torah to spite them.
Today as I hold my three grandchildren (a feeling, I as a grandchild never felt) I say to myself " I succeeded in taking revenge against the 6 million lost lives". Hashem was grateful to me and gave me 6 wonderful religious children (3 Boys & 3 Girls ) . They all carry names of those that perished in the Holocaust.
Thank you Hashem, for giving me 6 Million.
September 29, 2012 2:18 AM
October 27, 2011 3:25 AM
To what purpose, revenge?
While revenge may be sweet, it still leaves the revenge seeker with blood on his hands. When Cain killed Able, did G-d kill Cain, even though he was responsible for killing a large portion of the world population and future generations? No, He didn't. G-d marked Cain and punished him, but let him live to learn and teach the meaning of life and justice. Bringing those Nazis to justice, making them stand trial and hopefully serving life sentences, making license plates for Jewish owned Mercedes, would be more in line with the way G-d wants us to run the world. Taking away their freedom and making them responsible for something productive in the world, is justice. It can't undo the damage, but it can force them to make some sort of amends. Murder is murder and dead is dead. Who gains by having blood on their hands? The only time capital punishment is justified is when it serves to deter others from similar acts, thus making the taking of the guilty parties' life of some value to the future. Who killed Cain? His own great grandchild. Someone that was blind to the fact that he was raising a child that didn't value life enough. Those that murder will pay for their crimes, one way or another. Why sully ourselves with blood, too? Instead, we should be the instrument of justice, to better our world.
October 25, 2011 10:41 PM
Only G-d is permitted revenge
I was under the impression that the Jewish approach is that G-d avenges evil. We pray to G-d that He avenge the evildoers and that His Name be thereby sanctified, but we do not take it upon ourselves to wreak revenge.
October 25, 2011 9:48 PM
The sweetest revenge
The best way to take revenge on Hitler is by practicing Judaism and spreading Jewish values. It was Hitler's wish to eradicate these. Punishing nazi war criminals is appropriate in a court of law for the sake of teaching history. But these Nazis will never suffer the torture similar to what they inflicted, so we need to wait for God to bring the ultimate justice.
October 25, 2011 7:03 PM
He forgot something
My grandfather was a tailor, he was also Jewish. In fact, his name was Schneider, which is German for tailor. He should have made sure they both were Nazis before he did anything. Yes, the Blut und Ehre pretty much identifies the first man as having been with the SS. However, he should make sure about the other guy.
Secondly, revenge is difficult to justify and as the comment above suggests, justice is also not going to happen by whatever the protagonist (or in this case antagonist) does next. Obviously, he's going to make him bleed.
October 24, 2011 4:45 PM
I am not sure that I even agree that the question is correct--is the character seeking revenge, or justice? Both often involve anger and other high emotions, so it is easy to get them confused an mixed up in one another. I didn't see the movie, so I don't know how the scene continues. But I do think that revenge can be a subset of justice, on a primitive level, at times--when other forms of justice fail. And other forms of justice frequently do fail in this world.
October 26, 2011 3:41 AM
i agree...and we cant judge someone who has been tourchered. this movie does do that.
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