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A Practical Guide to Paying A Shiva Call

A Practical Guide to Paying A Shiva Call

A one-page primer on how to comfort a mourner.


When one pays a shiva call, the focus is on comforting the mourners in their time of greatest grief. Traditionally, one enters the shiva house quietly with a small knock so as not to startle those inside. No one needs to greet visitors; they simply enter on their own.

Food or drinks are not laid out for the visitors, because the mourners are not hosts. They do not greet the visitors, rise for them, or see them out.

When entering the house, you should not greet the mourners. In fact, it is best to come in silently and sit down close to them. Take your cue from the mourners. If they feel like speaking, let them indicate it by speaking first. Let them lead and talk about what they want to talk about. It is best to speak about the one who has passed away, and if you have any stories or memories to share with the mourner, this is the time to do so.

This is not a time to distract them from mourning. Out of nervousness, we often make small talk because we do not know what to say. Don't fill in the time talking about happy subjects or inconsequential topics like politics or business.

Often, the best thing to say is nothing. A shiva call can sometimes be completely silent. If the mourner does not feel like talking at that time, so be it. Your goal is not to get them to talk; it is to comfort them. Your presence alone is doing that. By sitting there silently, you are saying more than words can. You are saying: "I am here for you. I feel your pain. There are no words."

And sometimes there aren't any. Here are examples of things not to say:

  • "How are you?" (They're not so good.)
  • "I know how you feel." (No you don't. Each person feels a unique loss.)
  • "At least she lived a long life." (Longer would have been better.)
  • "It's good that you have other children," or, "Don't worry, you'll have more." (The loss of a child, no matter what age, is completely devastating.)
  • "Cheer up – in a few months you'll meet someone new." (He/she has just lost the other half of their soul!)
  • "Let's talk about happy things." (Maybe later.)

Remember that speaking about the loved one they lost is comforting. It's alright if they cry; they are in mourning. It is all part of the important process of coming to grips with such a loss.

You should not overstay your visit. Twenty minutes will suffice. When other visitors arrive and space is a concern, it is certainly time to leave.

Before leaving, one stands up, approaches the mourner and recites, "HaMakom yenacheim etchem betoch sha'ar aveiliei Tzion v'Yerushalayim" -- May the Almighty comfort you among those who mourn for Zion and Jerusalem. One can read this phrase from a sheet of paper.

Upon leaving the house of the mourner, it is customary to give charity in memory of the one who passed away, may his soul be elevated.

Excerpted from "Remember My Soul," by Lori Palatnik

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A Practical Guide to Paying A Shiva Call

November 1, 2008

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Visitor Comments: 25

(25) Anonymous, October 6, 2013 1:38 AM

A Really Tough Subject

The most important thing you need to know is that there is really no way you can know what to say to a mourner. Having gone through this many times I can tell you those who said less were very smart. It is fine to stay for 5 or 10 min.
20 min. is a long time if you have more than a few ppl visiting.
This is an area where less is always better.

(24) Anonymous, May 28, 2013 3:14 PM

You do not know

My dear husband died suddenly and unexpectedly . We had 9 and 11 year old children. The most painful thing someone said to me at shiva was" I know what caused his death". We did not know, so how did he?: This insensitive comment did not not make the children or me feel any better. Another person owed my husband money he had no intention of paying. He came in and made his shiva visit all about him. I wondered if we are able to ask someone to leave. On the positive side, people who spoke with my children in a kind fashion deserve a special place in Olam Habba. I will say that asking a child if she found her father after he passed away is a very bad idea. That was the worst shiva experience..

(23) Anonymous, May 14, 2013 10:00 AM

MY Shiva

I sat Shiva with my sister after my mother opassed away (peacefully at age 97) and I found it an exhilarating and peaceful way of mourning her. Most of the time we were alone but many many relatives, friends and neighbors came. After the Shiva, we were t peace with her, ourselves and our relatives and friends. Baruch Dayan Haemeth.

(22) Dovy, July 1, 2012 3:09 PM

Bad Memories

Thank G-d I haven't had to pay too many shivah calls in my life. However, two of the few resulted in the person I had visited giving me the cold shoulder from then on -- even though I had made the effort to visit them, which, as a shy person, was a big effort on my part. Their behavior has left a bitter taste in my mouth for future shiva calls.

(21) leah, June 10, 2010 4:18 PM

less time

Having recently sat shiva & having a friend who just lost a 24 year old son, I would amend the shiva visit time to 5-10 minutes unless you are close to the deceased or ones sitting shiva. If you cannot bring much comfort then pay your respects & leave.In Washington Heights, the Breuer community keeps shiva visits to a minumum of time. If you see another visitor you want to catch up with,finish your visit & go outside to talk.

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