Tamar Fogel Speaks Out

The 12-year-old girl who discovered her murdered family in Itamar speaks out.

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(33) Anonymous, October 16, 2011 6:34 AM

May Tamar have only good news henceforth

I am amazed at this girl's fortitude and may Hashem have mercy on her and only give her happiness to relate to. May her family be a good baiter for her and may Tamar be comforted knowing they are in Gan Edan as they were killed al kiddush hashem. I pray we can have peace soon.

(32) Danielle Prizament, April 7, 2011 6:41 PM

Wow

Tamar is such an incredibley strong girl, may we all learn from her stregth. Am Israel Chai, may this incident only want the redemption more, and get us closer to it.

(31) Anonymous, April 3, 2011 8:20 AM

continued from above

Meanwhile, you, your husband and your now children accept this because there was no choice. After all it was the best scenario at the time and it will give your family an opportunity to work the land and raise your level of prosperity. Now, however, some hated you and your family because of past influence of the evil sheriff's descendants and their friends who viewed you as squatters. One or two decided to give you trouble to push you off your land and some even (G-d forbid) "accidently" kill some in your family over time ..a person at a time…because they asserted that you were "white trash squatters." Meanwhile, you gain much support by others who know your situation and they begin to help defend you, but nobody can find the killers. Tell me, do you think you should move "for peace" or would you try every legal means to keep your property? What kind of mindset, guts, and morality should you possess in this setting?

(30) Mash, March 31, 2011 7:48 PM

Direct donations?

Does anybody know of a direct fund for the 3 children? Not the fund of all the terror victims, not the fund for something else, but the fund of these particular 3 children??? Thank you.

(29) Brura, March 30, 2011 11:10 PM

How could it be more obvious to the demented portion of any public anywhere that Jewish people do not control the media! How much more easy is it to know when all these attacks go unreported. It is more than sad... it is criminal. The cowardly sniper's bullet and may he rot for shooting a 10 month old baby, held in the father's arms and the shock and deadliness of those allowed by bias in media against Israel and Jewish people all around the world. There are more attacks happening in other countries than Israel as well. IF WE DON"T REMEMBER... IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN! It is happening again. Pray to Hashem and arm yourselves is what I say and what I do.

(28) Brura, March 30, 2011 11:03 PM

Tamar Fogel is a very intellectual and caring young girl who has taken on the responsibility of being the mother to her two younger siblings that survived that horrific night. I wish that I could just hug her and offer her words of strength and encouragement. Thousands of miles and hours separate us but my prayers are there. May Hashem grant her all the strength she will need to live, grow up and not hate and care for the family that she is left with after that hideous cowardice that took away the rest of her family. I believe that I am becoming more of a Zionist every day. That, to me, is a good thing. I love this people and any one or the many that try to destroy them... well, quite frankly I would like to give them the business end of my cane!

(27) Tali, March 30, 2011 5:00 PM

I Agree with Beverly

I also was disturbed to the point of depression when I read about this attack. I felt like this could be a family I knew, children who could have played with my young daughter. I didn't see this family as "some family across the ocean" but as part of my own extended Jewish family. This will disturb me for a long time, as it should disturb us all. This young woman is amazing, and I hope that she will find her way through this.

(26) Rivky, March 30, 2011 2:49 AM

LETS HEAR TAMARS FOGELS MESSAGE!!!!

Such a young girl wth such strength. Please lets wake up to this strong message. WE ARE BROTHERS AND SISTERS!! Look beyond the small differences in dress, certain customs, language,ect. and lets unite as the brothers and sisters we are!! Lets take the message of this young girl, with so much strength, and unite and bring Mashiach and end this pain and galus together!

(25) Anonymous, March 29, 2011 7:32 PM

so strong

She expresses such strength!!!! To speak of building and rising up! What a sanctification of God's Name!.

(24) Anonymous, March 29, 2011 3:52 PM

A girl/woman of valor

I think she is amazing. Disunity, as her parents of blessed memory stated is painful, and hurtful to the success of our mission. It seems to me that we don't need unity of observance and customs, but we do need to share a sense of our collective mission as Jews.I think the last time we had a unity of purpose was at Mt Sinai.The challenge is how to bring that about. Aish.com seems to me to be helping.

(23) Lael, March 29, 2011 7:09 AM

Aliyah!

What happened to the Fogel family is an atrocity. How does one answer such evil? One answers evil by doing what is right. My family will be making Aliyah as soon as possible.

Anonymous, June 5, 2011 6:02 PM

Coming Home

What honor this 12 year-old girl has brought to the Word of G-d. Tamar Fogel has caused a Jewish family to return to the Land of Israel! Welcome home, Lael. And thank you for standing with your Nation.

(22) Beverly Kurtin, March 29, 2011 3:02 AM

I could not celebrate Purim

Purim is a time for joy and celebration and a proof that the old adage of, "They tried to kill us, we won, let's eat." I sincerely doubt that I could be as level-headed and brave that 12 year-old was and is. I believe that they'd have had to put me in a hospital to get my brain back. Why this particular terror attack has affected me as though I knew the Fogels is beyond my knowledge, I guess it is because I see each Jew as my relative, my mother, father, brother, sister, aunt, uncle, cousin... As the Shema pronounces that Hashem is one, so we, his children are one. The Japanese people are also G-d's children, and the Haitians, are they not also the children of Hashem? But the Foegel family...to stab an INFANT? What kind of being does that? Even animals don't do that except to eat. I've allowed myself to become deeply depressed; I will get over it, but it will take time...longer that I'd like but I haven't cried this much in a long, long time.

(21) Manasseh, March 28, 2011 8:01 PM

She Turns Scars To Stars

I have been deeply touched as a father of two daughters this brought tears to my eyes and at the same time the flame in this princess puts hope in hearts of all who hear and see her. Ysrael you shall mount up with wings as eagles run and not be weary, walk and not faint Cumi Ysrael

(20) shmuel, March 28, 2011 1:24 PM

wow

Mi kiamcha kyisroel! Who is like you Israel! Look at how our enemies respond and look how we respond!

(19) Ellen, March 28, 2011 12:32 PM

I agree with Amber

This seemed like more than a mission to me also. Whoever personally committed this act had to have psychopathic thrills out of performing the murderous acts. This is what hate encourages, savagery. Both sides needs to look at this, to learn how to get back to humanity, and to quit pushing one another's buttons. Building more settlements in the areas which are unsafe is very provocative, it dares the arabs to attack, and so the cycle keeps on coming. Let us step off of the aggression, to keep our people safer by not making them sitting ducks for enemy slaughter. Let us try to forge a bridge which the UN can get behind, and then engage our allies to protect both sides.

Tanya, March 29, 2011 4:00 PM

Been there done that

First of all, the so called settlements are parts of Israeli land and not some controversial piece of property. People have the right to live on their land and feel threatened!!!!!! You are saying that Israel needs to step back to get back to humanity?????????? Really????? Is it not Israel who hands out fliers before bombings to reduce casualties, is it not Israel's hospitals who save and repair the Palestenians who than come back to blow the same hospitals up, is it not Israel who gave the palestinians 99% of what they were asking for and still no peace was achieved. These are not people...they are savages. You cannot deal with pchycopaths in a diplomatic way...Israel can't back down or it will be eaten alive. You have to fight back and let them know that every jewish life is precious and worth saving.

Mati, April 3, 2011 8:18 AM

Your house is next, Ellen

Ellen, let's say that years ago, your grandfather made a will that his children would inherit a huge ranch with thousands of acres. One day there was a new evil sheriff in the county that (G-d forbid) shot your grandfather in the back and took over your grandparents ranch. He forced your grandmother to move out and relocated your grandmother to another county. He took everything your grand parents owned and took over every acre of land and all his animals. Everybody in the county knew what happened but nobody did anything because they were afraid of the corrupt sheriff and his friends. Over time, the sheriff's family built several homes on your grandparents land for his family and friends and his family became popular in the county, even though how he possessed your grandfather's land was well known. Meanwhile your grandmother and her children (one would become your father) had no money to buy more land and either were not really welcomed by anyone in the new county because they feared the sheriff and his friends or they did their best to help your grandmother raise her children, but were poor. To be continued…

Anonymous, April 3, 2011 8:19 AM

continued from above:

Your father grew up, married your mother and soon you are born and grow up too. Because nobody has done nothing about the situation, you decided that enough is enough (after all everyone knows what happened) and you file suit in the state supreme court despite years of threats by the sheriff's family and influence of his friends to people all around. Because you held the deed of the land, the will of your grandfather, and because everyone knew the story, the court, by influence of the sheriff's extended family descendants and his friends, decided that at best, they could return to you only one acre. To be continued..

(18) chaya, March 28, 2011 10:46 AM

i dont know if you will read this but i wanted to tell you that we lost brothers and sisters, we lost parents with you. my heart is breaking and i wish you so much naches and koach to continue building am yisroel. may Hashem always be right by your side helping you. i wish i coould give you the biggest hug and your brothers. im crying for you and all of am yisroel may moshiach come and may we dance around the beis Hamikdash with your parents and beautiful siblings. Amen. may Hashem yinkom damam and may they have not died in vain. i know you dont know me and i dont know you but i truly love you and wish i could do something to make you and your siblings feel a little bit better. please be strong.

(17) chaim zev, March 28, 2011 9:25 AM

Why were parts of the translation blocked?

Tamar correctly questioned the horrible preasure the US government puts on Israel. Jews in America when will you stop the mistreatment of your Israeli brothers?

(16) rachel, March 28, 2011 8:03 AM

This is a story that the world needs to hear.

Maybe Julian Schnabel will be unbiased and also make a movie about this girl's life growing up in the shadow of the Arab world's refusal to let her people live in peace in their ancestral homeland after thousands of years of exile and deprivation of land and personal property, lower social status and bloody persecution throughout the rest of the world, including the Arab world. Chronicle her life challenges and show them to the U.N. and the world so they can consider the perspective of this beautiful, ultimate peace-loving heroine. One of the many children who, even before her parents and siblings were murdered in their sleep in their own home by a racist fanatic, bravely endured being forced by her own government to vacate a home that her family had lived in under color of law of her country, so that her government could give that land to a group of unfortunate Arabs who had occupied the land during her people's forced exile from it in exchange for committments of other Arabs to possibly allow her people to live in peace in other parts of its land just long enough for the Arabs to figure out a way to wipe them out of the region if not off the face of the earth.

(15) Anonymous, March 28, 2011 2:15 AM

condolences

B"H My deepest condolence to you and your family.

(14) Lisa, March 28, 2011 2:03 AM

WAKE UP!!!!!!!!

I heard that the guards in Itamar, , those who were not sleeping, did hear something...but thought it was a false alarm!!! We must all wake up & listen to the whispers of our enemy!!!

(13) Suzanne, March 27, 2011 9:28 PM

Condolences to the Fogel siblings

An amazing young lady, my heart is with her and her extended family.

(12) Amber, March 27, 2011 9:25 PM

Arguments aside...

People can squabble and yell about Israel and Palestine until the end of time...but one thing is certain: the murder of an entire family (including a 3 month old baby) is not an act of warfare/terrorism....it is senseless and barbaric slaughter that gains to goal whatsoever. Heck....it's not even slaughter...cows at the butcher house get more decency and compassion than this!

(11) Keith, March 27, 2011 8:45 PM

To Tamar

Pain is too small a word for what I feel here.. G-d bless and comfort and strengthen you, Tamar, Ro'i & Yishai & protect you always.. Love, Keith (UK)

(10) Anonymous, March 27, 2011 8:13 PM

Running Out of Cheeks To Turn?

Su., 03/27/11 common era Rabbi Meier Kahane had it correct over 40 years ago. The battle is fundamentally spiritual, not merely about land. The more land and other benefits that our Ishmaelite cousins receive, the more that they want. I hope that the IDF bombs the hell out of Gaza, and the sooner, the better.

(9) Paul, March 27, 2011 6:24 PM

My deepest condolences to Tamar and her extended family

My deepest condolences to Tamar and her extended family

(8) Joan K., March 27, 2011 6:24 PM

Incredible

I can barely see what I am writing because the tears are falling so heavily. There is nothing to say, no words can express my feelings. May the A-mighty send His blessings to these children, grandparents,etc. May they grow strong and loving of their land and their people, as their parents would have wanted. And may Hashem revenge the spilled blood of this pure and holy family in our time (and all the others who were murdered before them).

Rochel Leah, March 30, 2011 11:18 PM

To Incredible

Amen.

(7) Haim, March 27, 2011 5:16 PM

THe Government is responsible for all this blood..

The horrible murder is the logical resulet of 43 years of Occupation and the crazy idea iof Jews in alestinaina lands.

N.Julie Sharabi, March 27, 2011 6:49 PM

@ Haim: What Poor Taste You Have

Your post is embarassing - not only for your terrible spelling, but for your utter lack of compassion as well.

Ita, March 27, 2011 6:56 PM

nothing do with anything but HATE

after all, the bombing a bit more than a week later was within the "green line".. There is NO excuse for stabbing an INFANT , MOTHER, FATHER , and TWO BOYs.. If it was a military base you could kind of say it's a military operation but to walk into someone's home and kill them????? you actually rationalize that ??? SICK!!!!!!!

Julie, March 27, 2011 7:37 PM

The real occupation

The only occupation is anti-semites and anti-semetic teaching in the land of Israel. The land that Hashem gave and promised to the Jewish people. The land of Israel belongs to the Jewish people. All of humanity (Christian, Musilim, Buddist, Hindu, everyone.) is welcome and may live in peace in the land that Hashem gave the jewish people, the land of Israel. Spilling Jewish blood is unjustified, cold blooded murder. Anyone intrested in ending the occupation in Israel must drive out anti-semites and anti-semetic teachings permenitly. Shalom on Israel!

Mati, March 28, 2011 6:04 AM

Self hatred Jew or Arab with a mask?-the true occupiers

When was there ever a country called Palestine? The true occupiers are those those who first squatted the Land since the Romans renamed the Land "Palestiania"...ie. the Romans, the Muslims, the Xtians, and the Ottomans. Before some of our Land was returned to us by the UN, it was occupied by Ottoman people, not "Palestinians," a name that belongs only to the Jewish people not arab squatters. It is the evil arab murderers, not arabs that want to live in peace that has been the problem because their own people teach them hate and a perverted history. "Haim," (an obviously ficticious name), you only got one thing right in what you wrote: It was a horrible murder.

Helen Ferrieux, March 27, 2011 8:46 PM

Haim - shame!

Haim, what a terrible thing to say. With hateful thoughts like that, what are you doing in Israel?

Barbara Seidembaum, March 27, 2011 9:22 PM

So Haim, seriously you should go back to school to learn - again - that the Arabs themselves called Palestinians in 1958, more than 10 years after Independence and Creation of the State of Israel, a land they always perdenceu Jews, and they in the both want, and we both envy, falsely calling us infidels, despite the world prove that we are the chosen people of God, still messing with blood our blessed Earth, Think before you talk dirty, and looks at the plight of this girl.

lynne, March 27, 2011 9:24 PM

There is no occupation....

There is no occupation and these are not Palestinian lands. Repeating a lie will not make it true. Blaming the victim is inexcusable. Shame on you.

Ray, March 27, 2011 9:30 PM

an Arab called Chaim??

obviously a wolf in sheep's clothing. Can't even speak english

Goel HaDam, March 28, 2011 2:24 AM

Haim?

No Haim(you are too cowardly to put your real name) there is no occupation. There no Falestinian land, because there is no Falestine, never was never will be. This is the result of a cult of murder and nothing more. You see my friend the day is fast approaching when judgement will be rendered and pit is dug for the wicked.

rachel, March 28, 2011 7:11 AM

It would be crazy IF it were Palestinian land

but... it's the Jews' land that some unfortunate Arabs came to occupy in the Jews' absence. Now the Jews are coming back and violent resistance on the Arabs' part will only prolong the agony for all without affecting the Jews' destiny to return.

JM, March 28, 2011 8:00 AM

Haim is an inappropriate name

There is no way that your real name is Haim - i.e. life - when you harbor such murderous ideas. Your real name is probably Ahmed. No Jew could possibly write as you do. All of Europe is filled with non-Jews living in homes that their parents or grandparents Occupied after the rightful Jewish owners were sent to ghettos and then murdered. These homes and properties belong to the slaughtered people's descendents. Do Jews go into those very homes and slit the throats of the unlawful Occupiers? There was never a Palenstinian people nor a Palestinian land. So what was there? There was a Jewish nation in the Land of Israel which was conquered by Rome and then conquered and reconquered. Palestinians? Never!!There were Arab nomads who never loved the land or built it up. AND there was a continuous Jewish presence under foreign rule in the Land of Israel. Even if your ficticious dream were true, the barbaric slaughter of a family is NOT the logical result of so-called Occupation. It is the result of barbarians being taught from infancy to hate and not to value life, not their own and not the lives of others.

Brian, March 28, 2011 10:09 AM

Whose Responsible?

Haim - When they killed us in Chevron in 1929 was that also because we occupied palestinian land? When they attacked us in 1948, and threw us out of the Jewish quarter in Jerusalem, and destroyed every synagogue there, was that also because we occupied palestinian land? When the Libyans expelled every Jew in the country, giving all 40,000 of them 48 hours to evacuate, was this done because they were occupying palestinian land in Libya? When the Jews of Iraq, who had been there continuously for over 2,500 years (1800 years longer than the Arabs), had to flee with the clothes on their backs, leaving behind unimaginable wealth, was it because they occupied palestinian lands? You are very naive Haim. It is because of weak minded defeatests like you that the Arabs have the audacity to make any claim to our land and to butcher our children. The Arabs all come from the Arabian Peninsula. They conquered all the lands they now occupy outside of this peninsula. "Palestine" was a wasteland until the Jews returned. Most of the Arabs came to the area because the Jews brought economic opportunities for them, and were able to make the land produce enough food for the first time in 2 millenia, so that the Arabs and Jews had enough to eat. Everything you read from the Arabs and the western media about the area's history, and the Arab's claims to it, are fabrications. Do your research, and you will learn the truth. Stand up for yourself, your people, and your history, and this bloodshed will stop.

Anonymous, March 30, 2011 3:16 AM

DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!

YOU ARE CLEARLY A SICK PERSON; PROBABLY AN ARAB!!!

Anonymous, March 30, 2011 4:27 PM

Blaming the victim Haim? What happened to all the attacks before 1967?

Jews in Israel have been attacked since the begining of the century, 1929 comes to mind as a 'biggie' when Hevron was cleaned of Jews who were cut to pieces. Fedayin attacks from the 1948 to 1967 when they morphed into "Palestinians". Since they don't want us ANYWHERE should we pack and leave Israel? What do you think. Since they don't want us in Europe and soon in America, do you think we shoud go maybe to colonize the moon? But there will be goym who will say we don't belong there, it's not ours. Don't let historical truth clutter your mind, just spout whatever..,

(6) Linda, March 27, 2011 5:02 PM

AWESOME!

I have yet to see such courage and beauty in one so young. Tamar, may your courage never fail you and may you know only blessings and from now on and for evermore. May your beloved parents, two young brothers and baby sister remain forever a blessed memory My heart & prayers go with you

(5) Isahiah62, March 27, 2011 4:59 PM

brave and beautiful girl

This young one bears the most important message for JEWS- UNITY- stop removing JEWS from ISRAEL- divided we will fall- thank you for posting this-

(4) moshe, March 27, 2011 4:54 PM

build and evacuate

BB says, 'we build' but tamar is right! "And then you evacuate...but in reality they are evacuating all the time. Not only that, but evacuation causes strife between brothers."

(3) Hebrew Christian, March 27, 2011 4:08 PM

What a beautiful young lady! Such a big heart. I wish her and her family all the best.

(2) walter wolf, March 27, 2011 4:07 PM

HaMakom yenachem et'chem b'toch shar avay'lay Tzion vee'Yerushalayim. May the Omnipresent comfort you among the mourners of Zion and ... Jerusalem.

(1) Bobarish, March 27, 2011 4:02 PM

Tamar, may Hashem Bless you in all things!

Dearest Tamar, my heart breaks and tears fall like rain. Like a palm tree your spirit is moved by the winds but will not break,Baruch Hashem for creating such beauty.I pray he will shower blessing on you and everything you do.

 

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