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If the UN unilaterally declares a Palestinian state, will you join the party?

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(84) maria aurora asuncion, July 25, 2011 5:42 AM

The day the UN declares a Palestinian State is a day of mourning!

my friends and I continue to pray for the the fulfillment of HaShem`s Word regarding Israel - Psalm 33:10 `HaShem annuls the counsel of peoples, he thwarts the designs of nations.` shalom.

(83) Anonymous, July 8, 2011 12:40 AM

Stand for Israel

If you cannot stand behind Israel Stand in front of them. Pray for the peace of Jerusalem HeShem will stand behind His people forever.

(82) Marlene Wein, July 6, 2011 8:22 PM

What would Palestinian statehood mean to Israel?

If only Palestinians accepted Israel as a legitimate country and wished to live peacefully with Israeli's! What a difference that would make!

(81) Genaro, July 6, 2011 4:50 PM

Nooo a un estado palestino...Dios bendice a Israel..wherever I stand, I stand with Israel..

(80) Do Lern Hwei, July 6, 2011 10:16 AM

Get Support From UN Members

I suggest that Israel get support from UN member countries who have problems with seperatists (China, India, countries of the former Soviet Union, Sri Lanka, Philippines etc). Granting Palestinains an independent state will set a precedent for significant minorities to clamour for an independant state for the slightest reason.

(79) Anonymous, July 5, 2011 4:09 AM

No, al estado de Palestina,

No al estado de Palestina, y menos aùn en Israel, quieren mas terrorismo????????'''''

(78) elsa peña alatriste, July 5, 2011 4:06 AM

Respeten a Israel!!!!!!!!

Ya es tiempo de que respeten los derechos de Israel. Hasta cuàndo van a hacerlo??????????

(77) Isaac Miller, July 3, 2011 6:37 PM

I support a Palestinian state

I support a Palestinian state in Iraq or even Afghanistan but certainly not on historic Jewish land. The Arab and Muslim countries have huge uninhabited tracts of land. Surely they can spare some for their wonderful "brothers"?

Anonymous, July 6, 2011 12:40 PM

Huge tracts of land

Yea for you. What a great idea. The arabs have exactly 800 times more land than we do. Furthermore there was never a Palestinisn people to begin with, these were Jordanians, and the Jordanians don't want them back.

(76) Anonymous, July 3, 2011 9:31 AM

nothing to celebrate in a new terror state coming aboard. My vote is no, no to terror, and no to the faux people faux state. No palestine for killers.

(75) Anonymous, July 3, 2011 7:30 AM

thank-you for creating this petition..hope it makes a difference!

(74) Josephine Coyne, July 3, 2011 5:44 AM

Palestine State

I think that the Palestinines deserve a state, but not at the expence of the State Of Israel. Can this small land inhabited by many of both sides for hundreds of years not be shared?

(73) Robert Rosen, July 2, 2011 8:30 PM

Proposed Palestinian statehood is illegal according to UN regulations

Proposed Palestinian statehood is illegal according to UN regulations. Also if passed would reward and spread terrorism . Not is best interest of U.S. , Israel , or the ret of the world

(72) Anonymous, July 2, 2011 3:53 PM

israel must live

hope this helps

(71) Ed Rosen, July 1, 2011 8:35 PM

No Nation for Barbarians

A nation based on terrorism and led by terrorists has no right to exist. It is for that reason that any Palestinian request for recoginition as a sovereign nation must be rejected without any further discussion. The Palestinians will have their state when, and ONLY when they: 1. Recognize Israel's right to exist in peace, 2. Dump Hamas and all other terrorist groups and permanently renounce terrorism, and 3. Concentrate on improving their own lives rather than existing solely to destroy others.

(70) arnold kremer, July 1, 2011 5:06 PM

I do not support Palestinian state

(69) JMetzger, July 1, 2011 12:59 PM

I am 100% in favor of Israel

I am in favor of equality, but the Arabs are not.

(68) Anonymous, July 1, 2011 3:35 AM

What a strange way to negotiage!

Next they will declare Jerusalem as their capital! !

Imran Ali, July 1, 2011 8:17 PM

According to international law....

According to international law Arab East Jerusalem is Occupied Territory designated so by the United Nations. The very United Nations that will be petitioned to to prevent the creation of a homeland for Palestinians. In a way, whether many Isreali's wish to admit it nor not, they above all people should understand this. Interesting also, to view the Isreali reaction if the UN supports the legitimisation of a Palestinian state - let's not forget, it's the very same United Nations that provided Isreali's with legitimacy not too long ago.....a sensible solution is to engage with each other in a dignified manner sharing a common purpose to reside alongside each other and respect each others dignified right to life. Treat others how you wish to be treated - simple.

(67) Anonymous, June 30, 2011 9:39 PM

You cant have peace when people train their kids to be suicide bombers they first need to teach the children to believe in peace

Jannette, July 3, 2011 3:10 AM

you cain't have peace

with people that teach their kids how to hate, and how to kill a jew.

(66) DorothyFrancesGoldstein, June 30, 2011 7:26 PM

Palestinians: ALL or SOME?

The implication that "ALL" Palestinians participated in the despised actions of this video is so offensive. Do we as Jews in support of Israel want to be grouped with the likes of Madoff? This perpetuates causless hatred.

Anonymous, July 5, 2011 1:35 AM

Good point Dorothy!

Its confused individuals who make illogical conclussions based on tenuous relationships. If you want to use the Maddoff analogy please use it appropriately. How about, 'do you think that we as Jews would be grouped with the likes of Madoff if instead of Arabs those were videos of Jews celebrating Madoffs success in defrauding people?' Now give me the answer Dorothy.

(65) Anonymous, June 30, 2011 7:25 PM

I would not celebrate such an event unless the Arab world recognized the State of Israel for all the good that it has brought to the rest of the world.

(64) Anonymous, June 30, 2011 7:21 PM

I will definitely NOT join the party. I am 100% in favor of Israel.

(63) Anonymous, June 30, 2011 7:20 PM

signed and sent this petition. I, too, understand the destructive impulses of the Palestinian leadership and how Israel would suffer if the UN supports the declaration of statehood on Israeli territory. It is unfortunate that the president of the US has misunderstood the issues in the Middle East and that his policies have contributed to the unwillingness of the Palestinian leadership to attempt further negotiations for peace. Realistically, there has never been a likelihood that there would be peace between Israel and the Palestinian communities.

(62) mimi, June 30, 2011 7:02 PM

israel must speak arabic they must say in Arabic that they are the followers of Ebram and mosa must arabe are ignorant they never know what is israel or what this word mean they suesaid they think jewish have an europ organ they are unbleaver if you translat the reality in simple arabic you will find another nation brothers you will be surprise no one need war or pain

(61) Anonymous, June 30, 2011 6:42 PM

If the UN would declare the Palestinian state to located in Artic Siberia, I would celebrate

(60) George Schmidt, June 30, 2011 6:34 PM

Support of Israel

There can be no peace until all of Israel's Arab and other neighbors, including Iran, renounce their stated and written intentions to destroy Israel. These nations must show by their actions that they recognize the right of Israel to live in peace and security, without preconditions, as a Jewish state.

(59) Anonymous, June 30, 2011 4:32 PM

no no no no

yes if it will be located somewhere in the heart of Egypt,Syria,Lebanon or even Saudi Arabia.

(58) aamir, June 30, 2011 4:18 PM

hate and violence

hate and violence is not allowed in islam if any body says that they are muslim the hate any other religion or violense for any people they are not muslim even all the universe and people says this is muslim but i say they are not muslims

(57) chuwuba michael okeyahweh, June 30, 2011 3:45 PM

U N should not attempt to create problem by creating an arab state of terro who refuse to obey divine law and action. if they go ahead they will see war.

(56) Anonymous, June 30, 2011 3:26 PM

Joke

If it wasn't so sad it would be funny. Pretty soon they will copy the Mormon ads and state, 'And I blow things up"

(55) Anonymous, June 30, 2011 2:24 PM

We can't let this happen!

OMG! I can't believe this preposterous possibility is getting close to happening. NO NO NO

(54) Jonathan Kenton, June 30, 2011 12:49 PM

It would do no good.

Giving the Arab Nations and people a state inside Israel can neither satisfied their desire to have total control of the entire region, nor can it help but make Israeli security all-but impossible

(53) Anonymous, June 30, 2011 7:17 AM

give them a state

Let them have a state, they will detsroy themselves and then Israel will be rid of them once and for all.

(52) Peter Kerstjens, June 30, 2011 6:58 AM

protect Israel and all its land

I am truly shocked that Palistine is demanding such change please stop it and just don't allow it

(51) Anonymous, June 30, 2011 3:05 AM

Past concessions by Israel have not been met in kind

Israel's past concessions (withdrawal from Gaza and Lebanon etc.) have not been met in kind by the Palestinians. Now that Mubarak has been overthrown, it appears that the Egyptians will support the Palestinians with weapons and will not honor their treaties with Israel.

(50) Evelyn Klapholtz, June 30, 2011 2:30 AM

NO to a Palestinian state

Israel is always pressured to make concessions which result in additional demands while the Palestinians do nothing and get everything on a silver platter. This must end. Israel has proven that it wants peace; the Palestinians haven't, they want to destroy Israel. They are not interested in peace.

(49) Joan Pomeranz, June 30, 2011 2:08 AM

Please direct our UN representative to vote against this propsal

(48) Anonymous, June 30, 2011 12:54 AM

no way

no no no

(47) Anonymous, June 30, 2011 12:30 AM

I thought we didn't condone terrorism. Hamas controls Palestine.

If the stated goal of Israel was the destruction of Palestine would there be an Israel? would there be a state? If that were Israel's goal they could have done it when attacked the last 4 or 5 times.

(46) kali Talwar, June 29, 2011 11:48 PM

These people only know hate & teach it to their children.The UN is heavily pro Arab & biased; their vote will not count in the finl analysis.

(45) Fanny, June 29, 2011 10:58 PM

Veto Any UN Declaration of a Palestinian State in Israel

(44) Sharon, June 29, 2011 9:48 PM

peace

Sure the Arabs want peace... a big piece!

(43) Susan Beer, June 29, 2011 8:56 PM

Israel has my full support.

I am against anything that harms or divides Israel--especially Jerusalem and the West Bank. Although I am not Jewish, I completely support the State of Israel, and stand firmly against anything that would cause it or its citizens injury or harm--let alone being swept into the sea as the Palestinian Authority, Hezbollah and Hamas have all threatened and endorsed. I also believe that America will suffer if we turn our back on Israel, or force it to be divided. May God prevent our present administration from doing any of this, and may he thwart the intentions of all muslim operatives. These are God's Chosen People, and when you mess with them, you mess with Him. His arm is not short, nor is His power diminished that He cannot make Israel victorious against all attackers and false friends--including my own nation of America, if that is what we choose out of our own arrogance and stupidity. God bless and preserve Israel!!!

(42) Anonymous, June 29, 2011 7:14 PM

Legal Real Estate Doctrine for Israel's Manifest Destiny

The Bible is a legal standing Real Estate Doctrine which records the Purchase that Abraham made concerning the Machpela cave in Hebron. He bought it with silver and insisted on paying much more than the land was worth. There were over four witnesses which makes the contract legal and binding. The U.N. has no such right to over ride that. He purchased the Plot

(41) bethbeth, June 29, 2011 7:07 PM

I agree with Robert. whilst it is true that the Arab world does not want to recognise a Jewish state which the UN unfairly created, Israel has continued to violate international laws which we Jews around the world should not support. This petition asks for borders defensible by the Israeli military but for the Palestinians to be demilitarized - where is the fairness, sanity, or peace in that?

(40) Paige, June 29, 2011 6:31 PM

In the Bible it states that the Lord gave his people the Jews the land; not because they are righteous, but because it is His and he gave it to them. And any nation that turns their back on Israel will be punished.

(39) Yael pedhatzur, June 29, 2011 6:10 PM

No reason for a Palestinian state

They screwed up their chances time & time again. In 1948 a Jewish state was declared by the UN now the same organization will ensure its destruction. How about a vote for a free Kurdistan!

(38) Anonymous, June 29, 2011 4:32 PM

NO WAY WILL WE ACCEPT A UN GRANTING PAS AS A STATE.THEY HAVE TO ACCEPT ISRAEL AS A NATION, A KIND ONE, A DECENT ONE, A GENEROUS ONE,AND A VERY PATIENT ONE.

(37) Gary Katz, June 29, 2011 3:55 PM

It left two things out

This video also should've mentioned their celebration over the 2003 space shuttle Columbia disaster (because an Israeli astronaut happened to be on board), and their dancing on their roofs during SCUD attacks on Israel during the first Persian Gulf War.

(36) Robert, June 29, 2011 3:31 PM

My opinion

First, as a Canadian, I have nothing to say to Barack Obama. UN Security Council Resolution 242 (1967) talks about the "inadmisability" for holding conquered territory by force. The Israelis have always ignored this important principle of International Law. Although I am Jewish, I cannot support Israel's continuing violation of this basic principle of International Law.

Miriam, June 29, 2011 6:49 PM

Robert, You forget that 242 states for Israel to have secured borders!! Are Israel's borders secured? You should state all of what 242 states and not a portion of it out of context. You are also ignoring the fact that the Palestinians have not accepeted Israel or renounced their dream of destroying it (read their charter).

Mike, June 29, 2011 9:24 PM

In that case I suggest that you move as your house is on Indian territory

Anonymous, June 29, 2011 11:41 PM

WHAT A FOOL

So Russia, the US, China, and many other countries need to give back all of the land they have kept because of war. Part of the problem is that you do not understand with being a Jew means and you discredit all with your foolish attitude. Israel has a right and obligation to protect itself against the thousand of rocket and terror attacks that happen every week. There is no such thing as a palestinian as this name is only used because of yasser arafat after he and his arab frinds lost the 6 Day War. You had better learn about being Jewish and about history as you currently know nothing. People like you are the ones who turned abound when hitler was killing your brothers and sisters. You are making the same mistake again and you do not care if Jewish Blood is lost again. I do not believe you are Jewish as you do not care about the Jews and do not care if they and their children are killed by islamic terrorist. SHAME on you and your attitude as you spam the world with your lack of knowledge and hate for the Jews...

Ben K, June 29, 2011 11:54 PM

Mans Law vs G-ds Law

As a Torah (Bible) believing Jew, I know G-d Owns the entrire Universe and in His Book declared the Promised Land an eternal inheritance of the Jewish People. Please explain to me how creations of G-d can argue with that?

Bob, June 30, 2011 12:08 AM

National suiside is inadmissable.

Robert, as a Canadian you are welcome to your opinion, but Isreal has already given back 90 plus percent of all lands conquered, and to give any more is virtual suiside. If there neighbors were civil and neighborly, you might be justified in your opinion, but Isreal has the right to maintain defensable boarders. Historically Isreal has more right to the lands they currently hold than any other group of people. Certainly more than you as a Canadian have to live on land which was stolen from North american Natives.

Anonymous, June 30, 2011 1:09 AM

you fool

Israel has ignored this principle. The "territory" "conquered" by Israel has always been during war in which Israel was attacked by the enemy.

Kk, June 30, 2011 2:23 AM

I agree with ur opinion

I been to Israel 3 times I was married to an Israeli and have a child with dual citizenship.. US and Israel. I want to sign petition but I do not as well. Israel ignores how they massacre Palestinians and Israel has all the wmd's. They abusive their power and cover it up with stories of accidents and self defense.

Anonymous, June 30, 2011 3:03 AM

To Robert

Israel never took any land by force. They liberated land stolen by Jordan in 1948. Jordan occupied by force this land until 1967, when the Arabs launched another deadly offensive, while trying to steal more land. Do you even know that Judea is Jewish land. Hence the name!

(35) Anonymous, June 29, 2011 3:26 PM

OY ! whats this nonsense?

"No foreign nation should be established within Israel's borders that is not in conjunction with a sustainable peace agreement and with the complete support and agreement of the Government and People of Israel." WHAT PEACE? You can NOT deal with radicals whose ONLY goal is the DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL Looks to me like this so called "petition" (which is not, an anonomous tally on the internet does not consitute a valid"petition" in the US ANYWHERE) is is simply a ruse.

(34) LD, June 29, 2011 3:24 PM

UN

most of the member states in UN are muslim or even islamic. am kinda worried if any protest can work - and sent to one of the famous muslims these days... may Hashem intervene.

(33) Anonymous, June 29, 2011 3:23 PM

This land is mine,says G_D of .Avraham, Yitz'chak and Ya'akov

UNwise and UNgodly move UNless peace in Jerusalem is assured and Israel Sovereignity as A Jewish state is recognized in no UNcertain terms... abd UNity between the Arabs and the Jews are certain and the norm...and they see eye 2 eye and not an eye for an eye ...

(32) skydog, June 29, 2011 3:17 PM

Never

No more concessions to terrorists.

(31) samuel, June 29, 2011 3:15 PM

No such people called Palestinians.

These are Arabs that came from all over the middle east looking for work that the Jews of Europe created with their know how to industrialise and create prosperity.Most of these Arabs know Jordan is their country given to the Saudi by the British and called himself King Abdullah of Jordan.You so called Palestinians are majority in Jordan.Your Saudi Arab Bretheren took your country.Judea and Samaria which the world and Palestinians call West Bank not one inch belongs to Arabs.You are in exile in Judea Samaria so go home to Jordan and stay there and see how well treated you will be by Jordanian Government.Judea and Samaria is Israel proper and belongs to the Jews.

(30) arnold frischman, June 29, 2011 2:29 PM

please stand with Israel.

(29) draisa frischman, June 29, 2011 2:27 PM

wake up world!

(28) Steve from Somerset, June 29, 2011 2:25 PM

If the UN declares Palestine a state....

For the last 60 years, it has been the contention of the Arab world that the UN lacked the authority to recognize the establishment of the State of Israel. If they now celebrate a similar UN declaration regarding a state of Palestine, aren't they implicitly acknowledging the validity of the Jewish State?

david c, June 29, 2011 3:22 PM

and you even ask???

of COURSE not, silly, that would be DIFFERENT! To follow Rabbi Chernofskys model of using US game shows..."Ill take HYPOCRISY for $100" I personally think that Israelis should be moved to the US, then turn the entire Mid East into a glass paved parking lot at the next terror attack, but thats just me (and quite a few others). Take Temple Mount out and rid it of the infestation there, G-d can rebuild it later.

(27) Joseph A. Cleary, June 29, 2011 2:25 PM

I support Israel the IDF/IAF/INF and Hashem!

Dear Friends: I'm a Jew not and Arab and not a Muslim. Would I turn away from my own people, NO. I may not have been born a Jew but I'll darn sure die one. If given the chance to stand shoulder to shoulder with and IDF to fight for Israel even if it meant fighting American forces, YES. I pray that all should be well with a good week and a good Shabbis. Shalom, Shalom, Joseph A. Cleary

(26) Marcia, June 29, 2011 2:16 PM

No No No No No No No

G_d's plan is bigger and better than the UN's plan. The more everyone fights against Israel, the harder it will be on them. I don't even need to be alive to know that the celebration G_d will have for His people and for Israel will be the greatest party the universe has ever seen!!

(25) jacob aminoff, June 29, 2011 2:11 PM

don't invite terrorism.

Do not admit any group of people neghboring Israel to be an independent country if they can respect and loive in peace with their neighbor.

(24) kenny beal, June 29, 2011 2:10 PM

Palestinian State

So, you reject a Palestinian State. What do you propose instead for the Palestinians? What is your solution?

Ruth, June 29, 2011 3:23 PM

TAKE A LOOK AT A MAP OF THE MIDDLE EAST

Take a good, hard look at a map of the Middle East. PLENTY of Arab land for the establishment of a Palestinian State, but no, they want tiny, miniscule Israel. Wonder why!!!!!!

(23) Richard, June 29, 2011 2:00 PM

Palestine

Just where do they think this state is going to me located other than in their minds?

(22) F M DUFF, June 29, 2011 1:45 PM

THE TORAH STATES ISRAEL FOR THE JEWS

HASHEM WILL WORK THINGS OUT IN THE END. HAVE FAITH.

(21) Anonymous, June 29, 2011 1:29 PM

No

Absolutely not.

(20) Benjamin Alexander Sklavos, June 29, 2011 2:39 AM

The UN is a joke!

How much land do the Arabs need? The Holy Scriptures assure us that Israel will always be Jewish I'm going to trust God

(19) Avner Fazilov, June 27, 2011 9:56 PM

Gog u magog!

It says the Gemara that before Mashiach comes there's going a big called Gog u magog the last war, this is what's happening right now!!

(18) Kenneth, June 27, 2011 8:55 PM

History

Hmmmm...thats funny. When the UN offered to give Palestine land for a "state" in 1948 they thumbed their noses at them and said we dont NEED the UN. And now they want to celebrate what the UN does???

(17) Debirah, June 27, 2011 7:25 PM

Not jumping for any joy for Palestinian State.

Do not celebrate for Palestinian State. Israel is God's country. Get over it Palestinians.

(16) Anonymous, June 27, 2011 7:04 PM

Israel belongs to Hebrews.

A separate state within G_d's land given to Avraham, Yitz'chak and Ya'akov is a downright treason to the G_d's established nation and government. If any nation thinks she can drive back the people of G_d from the land he promised them must take a look at history beginning with the Torah.. Israel belongs to the Hebrews

(15) Gandhi Disciple, June 27, 2011 6:13 PM

I back Obama

I'm living in Israel, and I believe Obama is doing the right thing. We need to give back the land that was taken in the 1967war. The Arabs are the brothers of the Jews; this centuries old fighting between brothers must end.

My10Cents, June 27, 2011 6:35 PM

Brothers?

Yes, you're right, the Jews consider the Arabs their brothers, but the Arabs have a different point of view. Just like what was said before: If the arabs signed a peace treaty with Israel, then Peace will prevail . But if the Israel sign the peace treaty, then it will be the end of the Jewish people. Why ? you may ask, because the Arabs never kept thier words.

Jordan, June 27, 2011 7:14 PM

not brothers

But more like cousins and not exactly the kissin' type.

Zach Fenton, June 27, 2011 11:05 PM

So then when they launch missles into the country

So if they launch missels into the country you won't care. Also what about how we gave Gaza back and less than a day later these Palestinians destroyed our Synagogues. So I take it you support evicting and exiling 120 thousand of your fellow brothers just so Israel can get more rockets; the more we give the Palestinians the more the want! Sinai was given to Egypt which is majority the origin of Palestinians, Gaza gave back, now why not just give Judea and Samaria back to Jordan; well Jordan IS the Palestinian State!

Ben K, June 28, 2011 1:58 AM

Isnt Ghandi the One That said

the Jews of Europe should Passivley Resist Hitler

(14) William Robbins, June 27, 2011 6:07 PM

I believe that Israel could take care of themselves if turned loose

I believe the U.S. was created into a super power to protect Israel but I'm afraid Obama is turning his back on them.

(13) Antonio Perez, June 27, 2011 4:51 PM

Response to Anonymous - A really dumb question

In response to Anonymous - A really dumb question, it already has happened, the United States. Europeans came and took the land from the native inhabitants. The rest is well documented history. The Europeans who came to the Americas had no divine mandate. They had no Moses, no prophets, no voice from on high. Yet they stated that G-d sent them here to make this land (continent) their's and so they did, displacing and murdering millions of the native people. Well now we have Israel and the Jews, G-d spoke to them through the Patriarchs, Moses, the Judges, the Prophets, His Torah. The land was given to them by G-d. They didn't claim that their view of G-d give it to them, He gave it to them and commanded them to occupy it. The Palestinians have NO claim on the Land, the Jews have every claim to the Land. We must unite against this attack or it will continue and become worse and worse. Keep alive the memory of the patriots of Israel who have already sacrificed all to ensure her existence.

Kenneth, June 27, 2011 9:01 PM

Millions??

There weren't MILLIONS of native Americans when we got to this continent. While I support Israel one hundred percent...your comments are ignorant. Ever hear of MANIFESTDESTINY?? I thought not. And our founding fathers DID get a mandate from God. The proof is in the pudding. Do you think the Germans or Japs would have treated the natives any better?? The native americans that WERE herer were involved in their own countless wars and skirmishes. NO ONE had a definate right or claim to the land when we got here. Nice try though. We have God on our side JUST as much as you do.

(12) Anonymous, June 27, 2011 11:02 AM

A really dumb question

There are several cities and areas in Europe where the Muslim population has become the majority. For the sake of argument let us take two of those countries: France and Sweden. Now, what is there to prevent the Muslim population in those countries from asking the UN to declare those parts a separate State? They are a majority. They can 'claim' that they are being oppressed and that they need self-governance. They can claim that they need their own place since they have their own religion, culture and laws (sharia). They can even claim that they have occupied that land for the last couple of generations and that the previous settlers abandoned it. It might be a dumb question, but other than power, what would prevent this from taking place?

Graham Ward, June 27, 2011 5:23 PM

Yes; really dumb.

"There are several cities and areas in Europe where the Muslim population has become the majority"? Name one. Name just one city in Western Europe where Muslims are the majority. Malmo? Marseilles? Bradford? Leicester? 15-25%, tops.

Anonymous, June 29, 2011 2:23 PM

Yes, really dumb, indeed! But, then read on

If one follows soccer (football in Europe) one will know of a soccer club called FC Rosengard. It is a Swedish Club. Rosengard, Sweden has over 50% Muslim population. Will that qualify as a majority? How about a majority of 60% in Roubaix, France? Again, a majority. Where I live a certain political party won with 33% support. In Europe, one needs much less but why quibble over details since that is not the point that I was making. And, why is Western Europe brought into the picture since I never mentioned Western Europe. Where did I write the words Western Europe? I was general about Europe. I was presenting a rhetorical question and most of the readers obviously knew it. They knew that BIH is mostly Muslim. They knew that Albania is mostly Muslim as is Turkey. Of course I really wanted to have a spotlight shine on the newly created territory called Kosovo. Yes, this newly UN minted state/territory is mostly Muslim and UN in its great wisdom decided that it should take it away from a sovereign State based on what it now knows was a fraud. The two areas that I mentioned do have a majority Muslim population. It would be ridiculous to have them ask for separation since they are parts of major urban centers. But, that is precisely the point. So, is the point that regardless what the population is, to ask for separation is under these circumstances is wrong. It is wrong for UN to even consider any such proposition. Obviously I am linking the two together.

(11) Anonymous, June 27, 2011 12:17 AM

Stop the UN unilateral resolution of Palestinian state

with Fatah joining Hamas there is no possibility of peace in the region. Say NO to the unilateral resolution at the uN

(10) david frankel, June 26, 2011 11:35 PM

we all know there is no such thing as palastinen people in this world which was invented by the arabs thugs i,m surprized that you are confiming this lie over and over youre self

(9) Claire Bennett, June 26, 2011 9:29 PM

Against unilaterial declaration of Palestinian state

(8) Ben K, June 26, 2011 9:18 PM

The Petition May Actually Be A Bit Too Mild

President Obama has already said he will veto a UN call for a Palestinian state. But he is pressuring Israel via the EU (France, England , Germany) to adopt Obamas pre-1967 line plan with "Mutually agreed upon swaps". In his "Highly Experienced in Foreign Affairs" Knowing Absolutley what is right for all the world nations as the Great Obama has a few years ago Scolded Israel for the nerve to build Jewish homes in Jerusalem, according to Obama only Arabs should be allowed to build homes in Jerusalem of Old, including the Jewish Quarter of the Old CIty. And he repeated this and had his secretary of state repeat this in a tough tone publicly. When Abbas complained that Israeli police tried to stop Palestinians from stonging Jews at the Western Wall Obama did NOT act as angrily nor when Palestinians protested when Israel rebuilt a synogogue in the Jewish Quarter of the Old City that was Destroyed by Arabs in 1948. Now Obama said Israel "Must" accept 1967 lines as a basis - and the kindness of Palestinian hearts for any more land Israel deems vital for security and to accomodate hunderds of thousands of Jews that live in post-1967 borders from becoming homeless. Of coruse the Palestinians actually clearly want all of Israel - thats why they demand millions of Arabs should eb allowed to enter pre-1967 Israel. Yet Obama did NOT tell them with the same Scolding he did to Israel. 40 Something year old Obama feels Israel should follow His Border lines and to Forget G-ds Borders in Exodus where He Says The Children of Israel Are To Inherit the Land of Israel as an Eternal inheritance. Never mind all the Earth is G-ds - But Obama is ... well ask him

(7) Alan Dannis, June 26, 2011 6:22 PM

The world needs Israel

This movement by the Palistineans is an attempt to avoid any peace talks -- All that has to happen is a declaration that Israel has a right to exist.

(6) Beverly Kurtin, June 26, 2011 6:04 PM

There IS No Palestine!

WHY, WHY, WHY does the State of Israel refer to those Jordanian Arabs as "Palestinians?" Until Egyptian born Arafat, decided to call the Arabs "Palestinians" in 1967 there was no such a thing as a Palestinian except for the Jews who were living in the land prior to the declaration of independence. He did that so that the world would buy the lie, the BIG LIE that they had been an independent nation until we Jews stole it from them...that they were an ancient people ta da, ta da, ta da. Their "Grand Mufti) had lived in NAZI GERMANY DURING WWII. He learned from none other than Hitler's minister of propaganda how to use the BIG LIE. The Arabs have used that Big Lie to bamboozle the entire world,. The biggest lie I've heard is that Israel is apartheid. WHAT ARE THEY SAYING THAT FOR? Because they are trying hard to get people to ignore the fact that EVERY ARAB COUNTRY IS NOT ONLY APARTHEID BUT JUDENFREI!!!!! We Jews have suffered a "Nakba" too. The idiotic world we live in forgot that between 800,000 and 1,000,000 Jews were evicted from every Arab country and Israel absorbed each and every soul. NO ARAB COUNTRY HAS ABSORBED SO MUCH AS ONE DISPLACED ARAB. The word has forgotten that the Arabs left of their own free will; yes, Israel did displace some Arabs, I forget why, but it happened. But not the MILLIONS of them that exist today. Remember, Arabs have a very high birth rate, and the original 800,000 or so Arabs that left Israel, are now overflowing and still not one of the Arab countries have accepted them. As far as them thinking they are going to have a country just created by the UN, THEY ALREADY HAD THEIR CHANCE, THEY REFUSED TO TAKE IT BECAUSE THEY DID NOT WANT US THERE. Fibrous mammary gland said the feline, but the lactate solution is sill nutritious. They claim that 133 countries will recognize them as an independent state. Not on your bippy. They are in for a big surprise if they try to take over parts of Israel.

(5) JK, June 26, 2011 4:43 PM

Deja Vu?

Didn't the UN already vote and declare a Palestinian state in 1988? From Wikipedia: An UNGA resolution was adopted "acknowledging the proclamation of the State of Palestine by the Palestine National Council on 15 November 1988," One hundred and four states voted for this resolution, forty-four abstained, and two – the United States and Israel – voted against. By mid-December, 75 states had recognized Palestine, rising to 89 states by February 1989. How is this attempt different?

Richard, June 29, 2011 2:05 PM

UN

Everyone in 89 forgot, so they just keep doing it until someone remembers. I guess, any way you know how long it takes a saracen to forget something.

(4) Haim, June 26, 2011 4:12 PM

A Palestinian declaration competes the 1947 Rartition Resolution

Real supporters of a viable Israel living in peace in its region should welcome a declaration of Palestinian statehood. 63 years overdue...

Sackheim, June 26, 2011 11:45 PM

you are nuts there never was a Palestine nation. It is the biggest lie possible.Google it and you will have about 20 pages saying it is the biggest lie possible. sholom E Sackheim

(3) jgarbuz, June 26, 2011 2:18 PM

Remind the UN that in 1948, when the Jewish state was authorized

5 Arab armies attacked the newborn State of Israel to try to abort it, but the UN did NOTHING to stop or even condemn them! So under that precedent, if UNGA votes for a Palestinian state, and if Israel invaded to crush it, they should consider their own precedent from 63 years ago! Neither the UN nor any country sent an army to protect the newborn Jewish state. So ISrael should remind the Palestinians of this fact before the vote goes forward. That if they unilaterally declare independence without Israeli permission what might entail.

(2) Rosen, June 26, 2011 1:02 PM

petition signed!

BTW, I signed the Petition for the WH.

(1) Rosen, June 26, 2011 1:00 PM

the dangers of a Palestinian state

Experts on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict argue that a Palestinian state would really be illegal given that Hamas (and Fatah) would relentlessly fire rockets into Israeli cities, which would be much worse than the war between Israel and Hezbollah in 2006 as well as the ongoing assault of years of Hamas firing rockets into Israeli cities like Sderot....Furthermore, I'd like to see more action taken about spreading the truth faster than the lies spread about Palestinians starving in Gaza and being occupied by the IDF while it has been found that there isn't any humanitarian crisis in Gaza, as an official from the Red Cross has found. Palestinians do have access to shopping markets as well as recreational amusement parks, yet they tell the world they are ungrateful because of the Israeli "occupation."

 

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