Our Christian Friends

Graciousness is a virtue the American Jewish establishment has learned a lot about recently, but we can stand to learn more.

For years, the Christian Right supported Israel with more passion than many Jews could muster. But rather than thank Christians and seek to deepen that support, groups like the Anti-Defamation League, the American Jewish Congress, and the Simon Wiesenthal Center acted as private police agencies, rooting out any hints of Christian "intolerance." Intolerance was defined as expressing certainty either about moral matters (homosexuality, abortion) or about certain theological questions (like, "Who goes to Heaven?" or "Who killed Jesus?").

When Christian leaders committed "intolerance" they could count on being publicly humiliated by the likes of Abraham Foxman of the ADL or Rabbi Marvin Hier of the Wiesenthal Center.

This pattern persisted even into the recent crisis in Israel, when pro-Israel sentiments among Christians were clearly what was behind the pro-Israel tilt among congressional Republicans and in the White House.

Christian-Jewish cooperation is suddenly the idea of the moment.

Then, amazingly, something changed. You began to see media report after media report about Jews, in the establishment and at the grassroots level, who had been, simply, overwhelmed by the feeling of gratitude. Apart from America, the whole world was against Israel. And here were these customary bogeymen, these Christian right-wingers, for whom even an Abe Foxman couldn't help feeling a certain warmth. In New York's Jewish Week, it was reported that Foxman approached and thanked -- yes, thanked -- pro-Israel Christian politico Gary Bauer, though he stipulated that he would continue to oppose Bauer's conservative domestic agenda.

Now we have the latest development. Yechiel Eckstein is a Chicago rabbi whose group, International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, raises money from Christians for Israel and for impoverished Jews elsewhere in the world. (Last year, more than $22 million.) With fanfare from the New York Times and a full-page ad in the Washington Post, Rabbi Eckstein has retained the services of political consultant Ralph Reed to be the Christian cochairman of "Stand for Israel," a new group for Christian Zionists.

Christian-Jewish cooperation is suddenly the idea of the moment. All of which is a most welcome improvement on the previous state of affairs.

Yet something further needs to be learned about graciousness, and about friendship. It's wonderful that Abe Foxman is now Gary Bauer's pal. But what does friendship really mean?

To be a friend is by definition to feel obliged.

Being a friend to another person or to a group of people is different from using them, however amiably. This fact, often overlooked, is stamped into the language of the Jewish soul: etymologically, the Hebrew word for friend, chaver, is a variation on the root that means "obligation." That is, to be a friend is by definition to feel obliged. It means you have to give as well as take.

This should be of interest to Jews, but also to Christians, who may feel emboldened to start asking for something back.

At a minimum, Christians can reasonably ask that groups like the ADL, the American Jewish Congress, and Wiesenthal Center lay off a bit. In exchange for their vital support of Israel, at least until the Mideast crisis has subsided, let Foxman et al. declare a moratorium on bashing Christians.

If they're feeling bolder, let Christian conservatives ask that the Jewish establishment reconsider its programmed loyalty to every whim and prejudice of the Democratic party. They might mention that the Jewish religion itself lines up naturally with a conservative way of thinking about politics -- emphasizing individual rather than state moral responsibility, giving a prominent place to religious values and symbols in public institutions, two themes that are in evidence on almost every page of the Hebrew Bible.

All this is a matter of learning and expressing graciousness. That's the ethical reason Jews might want to consider giving to Christians just as we receive from them.

For a lengthier treatment of the moral grounds for transforming the way the Jewish community deals with Christians, in the form of a free pamphlet, call up the organization I work for, Toward Tradition, at 800-591-7579, or send us an e-mail with your address at pamphlet@towardtradition.org.

Our pamphlet deals as well with a more pragmatic consideration, which I'll mention here just because it's amazing that the Jewish community, so devoted to Israel, is also so unaware of its own self-interest.

American Christians love Israel because they revere the Hebrew Bible. So far they haven't been deterred by the experience of being kicked around by some members of the Jewish establishment. So far! But could there be a limit to Christian patience? That is a question to which, for the sake of Israel, a nation dependent on American favor, let's hope we never have to find out the answer.

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Visitor Comments: 49

(45) Cameron, April 25, 2013 11:48 AM

David's way off base on this one. I come on Aish to get Jewish perspective, not partisan political dribble. The blatant politicization of the Jewish tradition - labeling it as somehow more Republican than not - is dangerous, and should be avoided. Many observant Jews have been able to reconcile having either an R or a D behind their name. We need members of congress on both sides of the aisle that will vote to strengthen the U.S-Israel relationship, and several Democrats as well as Republicans do.

(44) Ovadiah, February 26, 2013 12:04 AM

Author misguided

Sorry David but you're way off base here. Unless Christians support the faith of Israel then their support of the state of Israel is only for their own apocalyptic delusion and we Jews fodder for annihilation or conversion. Please refrain from declaring "peace, peace where there is no peace".

(43) Tabby, January 15, 2013 6:06 AM

Who is using whom

It's a very odd perspective that Christians want to restore Jews to Israel for altruistic reasons. Christians have their belief that if they force a Jewish state on the world THEIR bizarre revelations will come true. They are using Jews to bring back their Messiah. And circumventing G-d's ability to restore the Jews when He is ready. Ask these same Christians about the role of the Church in history's persecution, in the Inquisition, in the Holocaust, you'll see they are no friend to the Jews. As for conservative values: it is certainly not JEWISH religious symbols and prayers they want in public, and a Jewish principle is the community caring for the poor.

Ovadiah, February 26, 2013 12:08 AM

Omayn

And omayn. Very well said. The author seems stuck between his faith and his politic.

Taylor, April 1, 2013 10:56 PM

RE:

Convents took in Jewish children and made it look like they were Catholic while the parents hid or arranged a trip to America. What did Christians do? We fought as soldiers against the Nazis, raised money and so much more. Don't hold a grudge over something that was 70 years ago. Along with Love, one of G.od's greatest gifts is forgiveness. Please. Right now, on behalf of the Christian church I ask the forgiveness of the Jewish people. G.od Bless!

Anonymous, April 4, 2013 6:07 PM

Taylor is so right. Please don't let the political commentators and historians with agenda distort the facts of the time. So many Christian men and women, including church leaders, worked and risked their lives for Jewish refugees during WWII. Bishop Bell of Chichester (England) was one of many loud voices during WWII, for his troubles he was ostracised and abused - ordinary people who supported him were threatened in the streets, their homes abused, and their children beaten at school.

Mitch, April 8, 2013 6:22 PM

Yes, Taylor, But...

How many of those same convents who took in Jewish children baptized them and raised them to be Catholic, and then refused to return them to their surviving Jewish families after the war ended?

(42) Anonymous, January 6, 2013 5:10 PM

because

because we love G-d, His People His Land...we stand with and for Israel, we don't want anything in return for us, only to see Israel prosperous and peaceful.

(41) Erin Maxfield, March 5, 2011 7:26 AM

Nice article

I am a Christian Zionist. My activisim, which is somewhat extensive and includes an teenaged- organized solidarity trip (recognized formally by Min. Benny Elon) to Israel during the 2nd Intifada when Israel's economy was suffering horribly, campus activities in years subsequent, local rallies in my city, studying at Israeli university, etc, started 100% of my own accord and from the sheer love I have for G-d and his desires as relayed in Tanakh. I never did this looking for thanks or recognition. In my experience, my activism was nevertheless seemingly appreciated by various Jewish activists. One in particular was eager to identify as my "friend." I welcomed this however, working with him personally over the years unfortunately led me to see that his definition of "friend" was not my mine; the former describing a "tactical alliance" to fight a common enemy, that enemy being the dark force that would irrationally wish to harm Israel. All sincere Christian Zionists will continue our efforts despite the lack of personal reception we receive from the Jewish community. We do not want anything in return, and we will not ask for anything in return, because we do not need you to give us anything; G-d is enough for us. There is no sense in forcing people to become "friends" with Christian Zionists--something that is contrived, undesired from the Jewish community at large, and probably unnatural. Just be the best you can be and focus on yourselves. Us Christian Zionists will be doing our thing and if you need anything, G-dwilling, we will always be here to collaborate with.

(40) Anonymous, September 12, 2010 4:30 PM

Friends with boundaries

I live in the Bible Belt with some of the kindest people I have ever met. Yes, it is annoying being evangelized and having to answer the strangest questions.However, once my friends see that I am committed to Judaism this stops. It is also hurtful to see people demonize conservative Christians and also us for our own conservative views. We don't help ourselves by bashing good people. Many of them would stand up for us in a heartbeat.

(39) Tamar, August 27, 2010 4:02 AM

Degrees of behavior seem to be the same across faiths

There seems to be the same continuum of behavior followed across the faiths. At one extreme is the ultra orthodox at the other extreme is the ultra liberal and in between these two extremes are a wide variety of variations.Any one word definition of a person or even a small subgroup falls short in identifying the faith to predict behavior patterns of those individuals. To label or stigmatize all who fall under a category based on the behaviors of some others can lead to misjudgment . It takes time to research and analyze a specific person's or group's perspective and goals but doing this will prevent hasty judgments that cause strife and lost opportunity for all.

(38) Anonymous, January 19, 2010 2:37 PM

2 direct yet honest points

1, "Chrisitian" is a very complicated lable. Yet logically I guess we are expecting some "pure" relationship here, ain't we? 2, Philosophy includes worldview and application, thought and action. My questions is if when 2 religions have obvious different worldviews, why not be satisfied with common ground of application or methodology sometimes or temporarily or as a compromise? When people cooperate in 1 way or the other, it may benefit both parties, & destroy common enemies. That's the value of cooperation. If friendship means responsibility, yes they can share same responsibilities sometimes to some degree. For example the cooperation in the World War II. But when we expect perfection, it's another story.

(37) brachah, January 19, 2010 6:19 AM

preaching is not allowed

many christians believe and because they are educated to have freedom to preach whatever they themselves regard as absolute truth to others. but according to judaism, it is not freedom, it is a mistake. if anyone want to teach truth, he should follow Torah instructions. otherwise dont claim yours is absolute truth everyone must follow. preaching is different from teaching. when you teach, u have reasons. preaching doesnt need it. if destructive speech is a mistake, preaching is also a mistake, and deserves no freedom. awake!

(36) Anonymous, April 10, 2005 12:00 AM

If I may be allowed a few musings on this topic. I am somewhat nervous about "getting into bed" (as the phrase goes) with the Christian Right in support of Israel. But I do think the American Jewish community does itself a disservice in resisting a "tactical" alliance with the Christian Right in support of Israel. It would be well to remember that except for Orthodox Jews, Fundamentalist Christians are largest pro-Israel bloc in the US, even more supportive of Israel than consvervative Jews, not to mention reform. Still, I am of two minds about this topic, and my conlclusions here should be seen as tentaive. I would love to read more about it.

(35) Ron, January 13, 2004 12:00 AM

Why all the negative posts about Christians?

I suppose the spirit of this article has been overlooked by many. Why, after reading this, would anyone want to bash Christians? What we should be doing is coming together in the face of terror and murder.
So let me ask...Are Christians such monsters that they can ONLY lend care and support for a Jew if they have something to gain? Conversely, is it the Jewish way to treat Kindness with contempt? Perhaps both cultures could stand to be a little less judgemental of each other. There are over 33,000 identifiable varieties of Christianity. It is sheer arrogance to believe all of these denominations do nothing but sit around, thinking up ways to exploit or convert Jews. Also, It is bigoted to steroeotype and label all Christians as small minded zealots who are "out to get the Jews." Frankly, I don't know what kind of Christians you've been hanging out with....or if you've been hanging out with any at all.
Also, I have seen a lot of anger over the Christian desire to convert people from other religions to their own. Well, to that I can only say this: These people have free choice. A Jew can choose to listen to Christian teachings...or not. Rather than curse the christian for preaching, why not ask the individual WHY he or she chose to convert in the first place? Or, does this individual's desire not matter? Welcome to a FREE society.
Oh...For the record...I'm sure I will be labeled, and perhaps even blasted for my comments. I am from mixed heritage. I love Christian, Jew AND Muslim. Think of me what you will, I can take it.

(34) Larry, July 22, 2003 12:00 AM

Not So Trusting

I initially was gratified by Christian support for Israel. Now I am much more suspicious. I believe that Christians support Israel's right to exist because the alternative is that Radical Islam take over Israel. Islam can not tolerate any other religion other than their own. Everyone else they refer to as an Infidel. If the Arabs conquer Israel than not only do Jews lose but Christians lose claim to the land, too. It goes a lot deeper than not being allowed to visit their Holy sites or even having their holy sites destroyed by Radical Islamic elements if this was to happen. Most Christians still believe they have assumed the role as the Chosen People after Jesus was born. They would love to have Israel as their own. Their siding with Israel at this point in time is just a means to prevent Islam from taking over and shutting them out of the Holy Land completely. In other words, they have a better chance of eventually taking Israel as their own and being the sovereign religion if Israel is a Jewish state rather than an Islamic (Jihad) state.

(33) Linda, January 7, 2003 12:00 AM

Re: Christian friends

Dear Mr. Klinghoffer,

May I suggest another possible motive behind the Christian 'support' of Israel and Jews: they firmly believe, and through the means mentioned in your piece, plan to bring about 'Armageddon' as per their interpretation of Revelations of John. This Armageddon, in their interpretation, necessitates the 'annihilation' of the Jewish people. Which, roughly interpreted, means all Jews will have to convert to Christianity - a belief that Jesus of Nazareth is the Messiah - or burn in hell. Does this sound like friendship??

I would love to hear a different take on this situation - 'cause the alternative is pretty bleak

Thank you!

(32) Wayne Schlievert, November 14, 2002 12:00 AM

An old/new Christian Noahide.

As a boy, I probably made fun of Jews and others I knew nothing about. Growing up I developed a love for the Jews and Israel, probably from learning Christian scripture.
Now as a senior, I'm am researching Jewish history and traditions, and loving it!
Due to bad decisions of my choosing, I have screwed up most of my life and the lives of my families.
I think if I had the guidence and training of the Torah and Rabbis, things may have been different, maybe not, but at least I would have had incentive to be a good person. Hopefully it's not to late.

(31) Joseph Benjamin, September 5, 2002 12:00 AM

Christian Reading aish

One thing disturbs me deeply about the comments that I am reading. The majority of those responding are Christian. Why? I remember that I once wrote an editorial to the Jewish Star Times and my name and e-mail wa spublished with the article. Increadible, about 90% of the letters that I got commenting on my articel were from Christians. Why? I have never gone to a Christian website or bulletin board and read and participated in their chats. Why would I want to? This is something that I cannot understand, for the life of me. I find it somewhat offense. OK Very offensive that they come into our boards and essentially take it over. I fear that we are being "loved" to death, if this could be called love. Let us rule our own house and live our own lives. We survived because we looked after our own and took are of ourselves. I apprecaite that fact that you want to undrestand our culture and religion, or whatever you motives may be, but do it from afar. At my shul, we have had curious gentiles come along and attend, out of curiosity. We are not oddities to be studied. Anyways, enough of my rambling.....Joseph.

(30) Jenny Druxman, July 19, 2002 12:00 AM

How to love the Jews

I am touched by the many Christians who profess unconditional love for the Jewish people. With so much antisemitism in the world, we need the Christians to speak out to their own people in our behalf. May I just suggest to non-Jews what it means to "love" a Jew. I think Christians believe that the ultimate love is putting in whatever effort it may take to convert a Jew. If you are a Christian and you really love a Jew, think of what the Jew needs, not the satisfaction you may get by converting him/her. Love a Jew by allowing the Jew to fulfill his/her own mission in life. A Jew must believe in only ONE
G-D and no human substitutes. A Jew must be given the opportunity to fulfill the mitzvahs commanded in the Torah that apply to Jews. The rest of the world has 7 mitzvahs to fulfill, but the Jewish nation was created from Jews who were taken out of Egypt and given the Torah. The Jewish nation has a huge responsibility to the world. We can only fulfill it without persecution and conversion. It is not love to convert a Jew. It is self centered egoism. How do you love a Jew? If you are not a Jew, don't marry a Jew. If you see a lost Jew come into your church, lead him/her to a qualified rabbi. If you see missionaries focusing on Jews, demonstrate against them and do not give money to them. That is how to love a Jew and to help a Jew love him/herself.
Thank you for all of your sincere support.

(29) M. David Davis, July 18, 2002 12:00 AM

I am a chaver

I give to the Wings of Eagles when ever possible. Not for personal gain, nor rewards in heaven, not even for the conversion of a Jew to Christianity; but for the safety and comfort of all Jews to return to thier homelend and worship G-D in thier own way and in thier beliefs.I hope to one day sit with a Jewish friend and study the Hebrew bible in the Jewish tradition rather than mine. My best wishes to all people whom are looking forward to the Messiah's return to Isreal.
chaver

(28) Anonymous, July 17, 2002 12:00 AM

A article about "loving your neighbor"

This article speaks to the need of reaching out in love and understanding to each other.

(27) Anonymous, July 11, 2002 12:00 AM

This ties in to the Elbowing God Out piece

I was irritatated by the entry by the Bnai Noach that Governement and Religion are inseparable. I cringed. The entry sounded far more right than most Christians I know. It is in American Christian interests to support Jews and Israel for the very fact that Israel is the most freedom loving political entity in the area. Jews disagree with Christians, and Moslems, and Deists, and everyone, but as far as I know, Jewish Israel has not tried to suppress any one else's faith. American's have been weaned on Liberty and Justice for All. Israeli statecraft most closely fits our model and value system in far west asia.

(26) Efraim Lujan, July 8, 2002 12:00 AM

Let us hope that positive relations continue

Let us hope that positive relations continue between Christians and Jews. However, Christians must acknowledge the history of Christian politics in the past. While I am well aware of the love of certain Christians have for Jews because we share the Hebrew bible, I am also aware of the supersessionist ideology that many Christians have. Especially those of the Christian right. With the rise of Islam, many Christians are feeling what supersessionism is like. Christians are being expelled from Muslim countries. Christians are suffering persecution and death by Muslims. While I agee we must work toward cooperation and respect. We must do so with a hope for the future but an eye on the past. And we must do so with Islam as well.

(25) Jacob, July 7, 2002 12:00 AM

disagreed

Christians already receive something in return for their money and support...its called missionaries in Israel. Another thing I disagree with, the statement that Israel "depends" on the U.S. In my opinion, its good that some christians support Israel, but that should not mean that jewish souls go on sale for their support.

(24) Anonymous, July 5, 2002 12:00 AM

Excellent Article, Mr. Klinghoffer!

I am a Christian who also loves Israel because G-d loves Israel, and, because I love Him. That's it, no strings, and no hidden agenda. No true Christian will run out of patience in our support for Israel ever. We feel like the Psalmist who wrote these words:

Psa 137:5 If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget [her cunning].

Psa 137:6 If I do not remember thee, let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth; if I prefer not Jerusalem above my chief joy.
If we profess to love and revere the Holy G-d of Israel, we cannot help but love His chosen people. If a Christian says they hate Jews and hate Israel, you can be sure that they are not a true Christian, they are liars. End of story.
I support wonderful men such as Rabbi Eckstein, and Victor Mordecai who are Jews going about the country seeking support for Israel. They are so secure in their belief in the G-d of Israel that they are not intimidated or afraid to be "converted" when they become friends with true Christians through out the world. Their message is simple, for they realize that a united front between Jews and Christians can be a very powerful force against antisemitism in this world.

So I say, thank you, Mr. Klinghoffer and G-d Bless Israel.

(23) cheryl hawkins, July 5, 2002 12:00 AM

INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY

I am a Christian, but individually responsible as far as my love & respect for the Jews & Israel... I don't feel as I do because of any political issues, that I expect a favor back, or that I want to convert Jews by trickery to Christianity....I have loved the Jewish people ever since as a child I saw the diary of Anne Frank...my heart was totally broken & especially after I learned more about the holocoust....I began as a small child, before my conversion to & understanding of Christianity, to love, respect & enjoy Jewish people...I continue to this day to pray daily for the peace of Jerusalem & the Jewish people...after becoming a Christian my loved deepened for the Jews...the God I believe in & have dedicated my life to, appointed the Jews as the chosen people & He loved them & set them apart, how could I not love the people my God loved the most? Why is that hard for some Jews to understand? I don't blame the Jews for the death of Jesus, His diciples, friends, & early followers were Jews...a select group crucified Him, many believing they were doing the right thing, I disagree with their choice, but I certainly do not blame the Jewish poeple for the death of Jesus...I also believe Jews should not judge all Christians as the same, we are not all alike, & the majority who express their love for Israel & the Jews mean it from their hearts...we have much in common & we both believe in one God & that He created everything & He will always love & protect Israel...may our friendships continue & grow stronger...I will continue to pray for the peace of Jerusalem

(22) Yolanda Canfield, July 4, 2002 12:00 AM

If anyone loves G-d, he/she has to love Jews and Israelites

I am your friend, without pre-conditions. I love all of you, because I have great admiration for your spíritual and moral strength. As I learn, more and more, of the injustices you have suffered at the hands of Christians, my whole being twists with impotence at not being able to compensate or right the wrongs done to you, who are the beloved of my Creator. Yes, I may be one just one, but I am one more. My prayers for you have been answered time and time again because He "adores" you. (That's just to emphasize how enormous I feel that His love is for you.) I shall continue to walk with you through these difficult times and will stand next to you should confrontation be necessary. Catholics, like I am, may be confused but I have a feeling that He is working to bring things around. Every day that goes by the image of Israel grows to gigantic proportions for all to witness and admire. It is unfortunate, but it seems as if you have been chosen to walk the hard road, to lead all of us. Only you as individuals of one nation could have survived and overcome vicisitudes, emerging with greater love and respect for our L-rd. I don't want you to become Catholics. I am working hard at not converting to Judaism, not because there is anything wrong with the surrender to H-M, embracing Torah, but because you all have given such an example of loyalty and steadfastness that it is easy to confuse conversion with betrayal. It occurs to me that maybe more than one person feel the same way that I do. I shall wait for Him to show me what to do. In the meantime, if you feel a rush of fresh air, and sort of a dew like touch on your cheeks, it may be a kiss from me.

(21) tom pattison, July 3, 2002 12:00 AM

christians

we bible believing christians, love israel, and her jewish people, we know the word, and we know its reliable, we know him who inspired it, is faithful and that he gave his land to you. whether you like us or not, we stand with our jewish friends and with israel.we love you......

(20) Anonymous, July 1, 2002 12:00 AM

Should we thank them?

American Christians do not love Israel because they revere the Hebrew Bible! They have their own “Bible”. Two thousand years ago they took Hashem’s written Torah, threw away the Oral law and corrupted it so that it fitted their own mad-made false messianic theology. Over the years they have intentionally mis-translated Hashem’s words and corrupted the Torah to fit their man-made morality and worship. It is this document that the Christians love, not Torah!

I suggest the author reads the seminar on this very site entitled “Why the Jews” which will explain why the Christians are so obsessed with us Jews. Their theology is based on the premise that Jews must accept their false god, messiah. They have tried debates, persecution, expulsions, inquisitions and mass murder to either convert us or remove us from this world. Now they use their “love” and money! The money they donate to help Jews come to Israel is nothing compared to the hundreds of millions of dollars they spend in missionising to the Jew. They target the most vulnerable Jews on the fringes of Jewish communities, those estranged from Jewish life. Their missionaries learn some basic “Jewish” words and lie and cheat their way into Jewish hearts and minds in order to take their soles.

Should we take their money? Sure! Should we thank them?

A neighbour comes and offers you food. You know the food is poisoned but you and your children are starving. You manage somehow to remove the poison so that the food is now edible. Should you thank your neighbour for the food? Sure! We Jews have been thanking our neighbours for two thousand years.

(19) Michael Schreurs, July 1, 2002 12:00 AM

No quid pro quo needed

The Word of God, the Bible tells us to love one another. It also tells us to pray for the peace of Jerusalem and for the Jewish people Is 40. That's what Christians stand on. No quid pro quo is expected. Our love of the Jewish people is based on God's love of his people. We, as Christians simply want to align ourselves with his will and purpose. That may sound overly simplified and perhaps even idealistic, but it is what I believe motivates Christians today. Please accept our love as His for you.

(18) Deacon Moran McMahon, July 1, 2002 12:00 AM

Excellent article.

I have and will continue to suport the aims and objectives of Israel. God bless Israel.

(17) Anonymous, July 1, 2002 12:00 AM

My Letter To Mr. Klinghoffer

(This was originally sent on June 21, 2002 when his commentary appeared in the National Review Online.)

Dear Mr. Klinghoffer,

Your NRO commentary, "Testing Christian Patience," June 20, 2002, leaves much to be desired insofar as it should concern true Christian believers. What ever happened to finding "favor" in God's eyes -- pursuing a policy of truth and justice for the sake of truth and justice alone? As well, where exactly does the Hebrew Bible relegate Israel to "a nation dependent on American favor?"

Today, Israel's receiving "American favor" is contingent upon foreign interests which include the establishment of a Palestine in the heart of the Jewish Homeland, appeasing the Saudis and other such make-believe Arab "moderates" in order to safeguard narrow oil and trade interests not even enjoyed by the majority of the American public.

Interests not anchored by truth and justice alone are nothing but self-serving, at best. Israel's champions from the Christian Right stand behind Israel because it is the right thing to do -- the only reason one should support Israel -- this, despite the odd proclivities of the American Jewish establishment and its many liberal cronies.

Sincerely,

I. Fuchs

(16) Lee Deems, July 1, 2002 12:00 AM

Reciprocity?

Because many conservstive Christians in the United States support the State of Israel is not a reason for Jewish people in the United States to stop criticizing that which is demeaning to Judaism.

If that support fades because of criticism, then the underlying reason or that support becomes suspect.

Jews, for centuries, have suffered, not only the criticism of many Christians, but outright persecution and genocide. From what we know it started in Egypt with Moses and continues today by the Ayatollahs, Arafat and many Christians. The Rev. Billy Graham just this past week apologized for anti-Semitic remarks he made during the Nixon Administration.

For Jews to cease criticizing anti-Jewish remarks and activities of Christians would be an appeasement not unlike Neville Chamberlain appeasing the Nazis. Any criticism, however, must be honest criticism and not a form of bigotry.

(15) debi barrington, July 1, 2002 12:00 AM

christian/jew article

Shalom came upon the part where you said "christians havent been deterred by being kicked around by some members of theJewsih est. so far! Butcould there be a limit to christian patience? i would like to answer that..i was a christian for 27 yrs now I am jewish by birth (long story)... but being a christian that participated and merged with the est . of christians , I know first hand that it is G-d that has put a geniune love for the Jews in the christians hearts the love isnt there for the love of the hebrew bible it is their for their love of G-d first and foremost and they reconize that the jews are the "APPLE "of G-ds eye and this is alright with them, thereisno jealousy or animoisity as it is with the arabs, the christians do truley love the Jews and israel because of their love for G-d, therefore, will they run out of patience? No they will not , not the true christian that knows the G-d of Israel... thank you for lettign me share ..enjoyed your article, deborah

(14) Becki Fields, July 1, 2002 12:00 AM

Unconditional Love

As a person who has been dedicated to the Jewish people and the nation of Israel since I was 17 years old, before I became a Christian - having found the reason for that commitment in the Bible that I love, I can only say that I, for one, and none of those I associate with, want anything in return for our love. The word we use is "Agape" - unconditional love.

(13) Anonymous, July 1, 2002 12:00 AM

Beware!

The Christians DO NOT USE THE HEBREW BIBLE! To state that Christians and Jews use the same scripture is absolutely ridiculous. I am not Jewish. I have been raised Catholic. My brief stint with Pentecostal ("Born again") Christianity in college was the most miserable time in my life due what my Christian collegues tried to force me to think. Then recently the Bnei Noach movement was mentioned to me by a helpful Aish.com rabbi and I think I've come home. (I am particularily attracted to the teachings of the Lubavitcher Rebbe.)

I want to warn you that even though there are MANY Christians that are genuinely interested in Isreal and the Jewish people, there are also many many MORE that their sole primary motivation is convert, convert, convert. G-d's people do not need Christian "help" to keep Isreal. From what I understand, the Jewish people need to support one another in love and return to Torah!

(12) Anonymous, July 1, 2002 12:00 AM

Response to article

Support and love for Israel from Christians is simply that - no strings attached.

Unselfish love lies at the heart of what Christians actually believe, whatever the vile distortions that have allowed such appalling travesties in the past as the Crusades and the Inquisition.

(11) Anonymous, July 1, 2002 12:00 AM

coments

jewish people are great,I admire your history and your culture from Abraham to contemporary leaders,and I believe god is with all of you en everywhere and every time,you are people choiced for god,and I feel , I would like to be jewish man. my family and me love people jewish. greetengs!!

(10) mike R., July 1, 2002 12:00 AM

It stings me sometimes..........

It stings me sometimes to hear that some Jews attribute alterior motives to christian supporters. I prefer to think that most Christian advocates are like myself, admirirers of the Judeo-Christian foundations which have helped make this nation the greatest on earth.The secular conservatives must surely admire Israel for its tenacity to prevail as the only democracy in the region. I, for one, have always respected American and Israeli Jews for thier intrinsic preciousness as The Chosen, a respect which they should command whether or not they ever accept the theology that conservative christians adhere to. Unfortunately with the cataclysms in european history such as the Inquisition and the Shoah, many have a right to feel weary. It is we Christians who should be thanking you, for the traditions you have given us, for providing the spark for lifting Western civilization out of Polytheism and for continuing to be living proof that God is with you, though at times it seems the whole world is against you.

(9) Debra Youngmann, July 1, 2002 12:00 AM

Can there be a limit to Christian patience?

Dear Friends,

I would like to clarify a couple of points made in this article.

First, Christians love Israel and Jewish people everywhere because they love and revere the G-d of the Bible.

Second, Christians will continue to love and support Israel and her people because they choose to do so. Our love and support do not rely upon what the Jewish people may or may not do--it is a matter of our own choice to love and support them. I have told my children that there is nothing that they could ever do to make me stop loving them because I choose to love them. I certainly don't agree with all that they say and do, but they have no control over that which I choose to do.

Of course, Christians do desire and encourage a relationship of brotherhood and good will with our Jewish brethren. We, both, stand on the Word of the G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob--and with G-d we are standing on the right side--no matter what the rest of the world says.

G-d Bless you all,

Debra Youngmann

(8) Jerri McGarrah, July 1, 2002 12:00 AM

Your article warmed my heart, not just because as a Christian I do support and love Israel, but it is good to see that somehow G-d is doing the work that He intended through us. I realize that others will be naturally angry to think that there are ulterior motives, but regardless of what anyone thinks or believes, we have to do what G-d gives us to do with or without your approval and acceptance. I feel like one of the children written about in Hosea, one of the "not-my-people" children. In the second chapter God tells the children to go and contend for their mother. Israel is our mother. You are the Ones that G-d has chosen, I will never be able to take your place or responsibility to Him. You are the Ones He has promised an everlasting covenant to and it is impossible for G-d to break that committment. We are contending for you! We are praying that He will open the eyes of your hearts so that you will again be His people, seeking Him to defend you. America will never be able to do what your G-d will. I feel that He gives me a place to serve, and right now, that is to love you and bless you and do whatever I can to come along side you so that He will speak to you again as He did in the times of Moses and Abraham. Agree or not, we are here. May He Bless and Keep you.

(7) Anonymous, July 1, 2002 12:00 AM

Sad

I am Christian, and I'm sad with what I read: "anonymous - Should we thank them?"
I am Christian, and I believe in the love of God, I believe also in the compassion of God. We christians want thta all the world could have piece, socail piece, and piece in the homes, in the works. And all we do is becuase we feel the love that God have for ur, and we want that evebody has love.
I want LOVE to this world, and not war.

(6) , July 1, 2002 12:00 AM

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(5) Penny Kidwell, July 1, 2002 12:00 AM

There are as many divisions among the Christians

There are as many divisions among the Christians as there are among the Jews. Some Christians think they are now Israel while others know this is not true. God promosied in Genesis: I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you. This is what a lot of the Christians who support Israel stand on. And, we pray for Israel. I can't speak for all Christians, but I always learn from Jewish friend. The sacred books were given to the Jews to record and keep. And yes, Christians have done terrible things to the Jews at different points and time. Our hands are stained with blood as Michael Brown so well put it. Know that the majority of Christians who are supporting Israel are doing so because you are the apple of God's eye and the time of the gentiles is about to be fulfilled. Maranatha and Shalom

(4) Elaine Dominy, July 1, 2002 12:00 AM

Great Article

Thank you for your article. I have never understood why the Jewish people I know have been democrats. It never has made sense to me. I have a brother-in-law that is a Jew, and my sister converted from Catholic to Judaism. I am a born again Christian, and in our family, we all understand each other's faith, and have shared our beliefs. We are adults, and love one another. We find common ground in the things our individual faiths have in common. We all pray for Israel, because our God commands it.

(3) Joanne Millstone, June 30, 2002 12:00 AM

The Christian Right and the Jewish Question

Okay, I'm grateful that the Christian Right is standing with us in our moment of need. If you ask them, though, this is not due to any love of Jews so much as it is part of the Biblical prophecy they have; they want to be on the side that their Bible says will win. That's as far as their love for Jews goes.

Otherwise we are liberal Christ-killers as far as they are concerned. They still use deplorable tactics to coerce Jews into converting to Christianity up to and including mandatory prayer in schools.

They advocate the murder of homosexuals, physicians who provide abortions, and women who obtain abortions; never mind that their very lives might depend on getting that abortion. Far from the Jewish tradtion of tzadaka for the poor, they feel that the poor should not get any benefits whatsoever, no matter what the reason for their poverty might be, such as catastrophic illness, death or desertion of a spouse, etc. Were it not for laws specifically forbidding discrimination of any minority group, they would create a "white boys club" that excluded the rest of the world, women and other non-white, non-Christian people.

So I say it's nice to have them support us, for a change, but we need to be cautious before we embrace this particular viper to our collective bosoms.

(2) Jan Johnson, June 30, 2002 12:00 AM

A Gracious Thank-You

What a very kind article. I, also, am a Christian, and have a very strong love for Israel.
May God give Israel peace and safety. You have suffered so much.
Thank you, sincerely, for this article!

(1) Sunny Hudson, June 30, 2002 12:00 AM

Bridge Building

I am a Christian with a heart for ISRAEL.

I am so enjoying the studies & articles

on this site.

I support a Jewish Christian study centre also helping the Aliyah from the Land of the North. I also visited Israel in 1999 with my older daughter.

Although antisemitism sadly seems alive & well in much of our British Press

many smaller groups are getting together

in churches with Jewish groups.

Shalom G-D Bless Your Site.