An Open Letter to the Beit Shemesh Spitter

Thank you for this letter -- you are absolutely right. Extreme fanaticism in any religion is terrible; my ancestors, who lived in Spain during the Inquisition, can attest to that. But when it comes to a situation of "Jew versus Jew" in that the these few Charedim can't stand the idea of Jews who don't believe as they do and ONLY as they do, it gives the entire religion a bad name and gives anti-Semitics even more reason to hate us and to trot out all those old stereotypes. The writer of this letter is absolutely correct in that calm, rational discussion is the way to go -- unfortunately, when it comes to fringe groups like this, calm and rationalism go out the window. All they can see is that their extraordinary narrow view is 100% correct and everyone else's is dead wrong. As such, they're no better than the radical Christian fundamentalists who believe that only Christianity is the "true" religion (and a narrow branch of Christianity at that). They're also no better than the 19 radical followers of Osama Bin Laden, who decided it would be a good idea to hijack U.S. jets and crash them into buildings, killing thousands. The scary thing about all of these small fringe groups is they're supposedly following the word of a higher power -- Christian fundamentalists believe that Jesus tells them it's okay to hate and destroy; and the 19 hijackers were followers of the Koran and Mohammed. Now we have these individual Charedim, who point out that their actions have basis in the Torah.It's a very scary thing when fundamentalists take holy books and desecrate them in this way.

Did you read the article?

This article should be printed, referred to, and shared. Its truly beautiful. Love is key.

despite our different backgrounds all jews are like one and have to treat each other with respect

Amen.

I cannot think of anything to add to the message.

of course, the spitter was just terrible! no one can think otherwise. However, so many people in the other camp have done terrible things and yet the reaction is hardly heard. for years, others have mistreated haredim and said: atem atem, you, you. we cannot use generalities to condone an entire group. extremism in the haredi camp is not healthy. we know some leading haredim who treat all people equally. They never permit extreme actions on the part of their followers. they have condemned the evil behavior of these extremists. However, we must be careful when it comes to the layman getting excited in joining the condemnation, since the other camp quite frequently interprets their words as meaning, they are switching loyalties. Even the religious and ultra orthodox say the haredim are bad. When something is so obviously evil about this man, is there need to say so and to say so loudly? Would anyone really feel that this is to be praised? We should use a positive tone and join with those who express their concern for the young girl and the effect this had upon her. She should be the center of our remarks. Join in offering support and love for victims. This is the way of Torah.

I was so saddened to see the extreme behaviour of some fringe individuals recently in Eretz Yisrael. I regard myself as an observant Modern Orthodox Jewess but have family members in Israel who are secular. Moderate and rational voices need to be heard across the world and especially in Israel. Thank you Aish

Not having a TV, I did not know about young girl being spat upon Spitting, to begin with, is disgusting by itself. But to spit on another person, especially an innocent little girl is reprehensible. And, the fact that it was done by a Jew is more than shameful. Don't we have enough problems without bring more anti-Jewish media attention upon us. Therefore, I agree with the open letter "how date you". However, my pride was restored when I read the story of Rav Finkel. The spitter needs to be made aware that his actions not only harmed an innocent, but also harmed Israel and brought shame upon its citizens by his actions. "Rahmanut" us supposed to be a "Jewish Trait" Obviously the spitter lacks this quality!

I think that your attention is focused on the wrong issue entirely. the problem isn't what the media says about us in this case! You should be so caught up in the fact that it's possible for someone to commit this disgraceful act, that you shouldn't even begin to think about what they're going to say about you. you see is the entire problem in the first place: not enough achdus who cares what THEY are going to think about ME?! Your entire focus should be on this catastrophe that happened! so what I want you to do right now is think long and hard about how terrible this was. And I want you to cry. And I want you to collect your tears. And I want you to hold them up and proclaim to the world "these are the tears that have always come to the Jewish People when they lack achdus for each other!" PS I'm 12 years old

Moshe, it does matter what THEY think from one perspective. Although we are not in control of what others think, nor should we try, it is important that we present ourselves as the Priests to the Nations (and especially to ourselves) that we are suppose to be. The Pirket Avot says that the highest crown, even above the crown of Torah, is the crown of a good name. This is because we can only attain a crown of a good Name when we live His Torah. By caring about what others think of us, helps consider our actions and there effect on them. If only the person who spat on that little girl had cared what she thought of him, I doubt he ever would have done the act, let alone consider doing it.

Dear Zoe, I'm sorry for your pain, too. I see that other people have written to you, because we all care. The color of your skin doesn't matter, only what's in you heart does. While it's true that having a mother that's Jewish determines whether you're Jewish or not, according to Jewish law, the color of the skin has nothing to do with it. As a matter of fact, some of our original tribes were of mixed race, although no one today seems to think much about it. Judah's first wife, Bas Shua, was the daughter of a Canaanite, which would make her of mixed race, since the children of Cham were black. This is also true of the wife of Joseph, Asnos, who was the daughter of Shechem, a Chivite, also descended from Canaan. From Ansos the 2 tribes, Ephraim and Menashe, descended. So at least 2 tribes out of 12 were of mixed race, and then some. Which means at this point, all of Am Yisroel, technically, is of mixed race. So for those people that are prejudiced towards people of darker complexion, they should take into account that they're insulting their ancestors. There are many people that may actually find your color appealing, so please don't be offended by someone's complementing you on your color, they may be telling you the truth. Unfortunately, you will always encounter people that make thoughtless remarks. Everyone does from time to time (including me, I've made some doosies). Some people won't know how to relate to you, they'll feel awkward. That's not because they think less of you, it's because you're outside of their experience and they don't know how to relate. Have patience, try different communities. Chabad is an excellent way to go. There are also sephardy communities that have dark complected members, where you may feel more comfortable. Whatever or wherever you choose to go, you're bound to find your place. Don't give up on us. We're family. Love, Shulamis

Finally. Great responce. Thank you Aish.com

This is beautifully written. The contrast between the two responses, is an excellent way to demonstrate the path to becoming the guiding light that is so desperately needed in the world today. Answering anger with anger only elevates tension. Showing reason and care might actually, initially be aggravating to your intended audience, but a determined and consistent effort for understanding, will lead to the desired results. Although I'm not Chassidic, I worked in a Chassidic community. The people there were so welcoming and friendly, not just to me, but to people that were "more modern" than me, as well. What a shame that all chareidi, chassidic, ultra orthodox, or whatever name you want to label the group(s) with, is tarred by this incident. There are differences between the different sects of Jews. There's no denying it. But does someone have to be wrong in the way they interpret Jewish law or custom, if it's not your way of doing things? Are we going to become like the arab sects, and start killing each other because we don't do things the same way? Disrespect IS a chillul HaShem. Since embarrassing someone is like killing them, when our actions bring shame to G-d's name, it's the equivalent of "killing" G-d. We're supposed to be representatives of G-d. We're not supposed to be an embarrassment. It's true that you can't believe everything that's read in the press. And you can't blame all for the actions of a few. We can't assume that the entire story of the attack on little Naama is true, but there is no doubt that tensions do exist. Something has to be done about it before more harm is done. The motivation of the "spitter" has to be looked in to, as there may be more to his actions than merely a dislike of the child's garb. The community and the community leaders should also be brought together to work out a plan to mend the damage. There's a lot at stake. We are all dear to G-d. Let's prove we're worth it. I dare you, too. Kol Hakovod, Shulamis

Wonderful letter! We had discussed many of these points at home, but you expressed the ideas so beutifully. Thank you!

I wish THIS article could appear in the NY Times, where the embarrassing incident first came to my attention. I echo the sentiments expressed in this Aish article in that it is struggle enough for Jews to tolerate, let alone accept each other's different levels of religious observance, and now in the U.S., political differences. The last thing we need is another element of divisiveness. The bottom line is - - if you can spit or throw rocks at or feel hatred for a fellow Jew...no, even for a fellow human being, you are not only missing the point of your convictions, but you are the worst kind of hypocrite, and should be ashamed.

I just want to say that I am sure religious but not hareidi Jews all over the world thank you for having the strong sense of courage, integrity and strength of character to stand up to the outrageous situation in Beit Shemesh caused by a few people. You are so right that they make all of Judaism look less in the eyes of the world. Although I consider myself traditionally observant rather than Orthodox, I wanted to acknowledge your willingness to stand up for what is right rather than towing the party line. We all have plenty to work on in ourselves; we don't need to be looking for what is wrong with the way others observe. Condemning others' observance or lack thereof does not make one a better Jew.

Those who spend time only with those who are of like mind often regard others groups with contemp.But to dismiss out of handviews that differ from,or challenge,our own is WRONG...1598, rabbi Judah Lowe...

the beginning of the letter was good. someone should tell him and others and not just be gentle. This letter should be shown in Israel to demonstrate it's not tolerable behaivor.

How beautifully expressed!

The second letter mirrors my feelings much better than I could have ever stated them. The old saying will hopefully become true that you get much further with sugar than vinigar.

The Chofetz Chaim would be crying at this action. I remember a story told me by my Rabbi(who resided in the Chofetz Chaim's residence for severa years) about a person smoking a cigarette and passing the Chofetz Chaim on the Shabbos and he touched his arm and cried, He did not criticize tor throw stones, He pain for his fellow Jew caused him to stop behavior etc

Thank you, Aish.com for an appropriate response to this incident. I believe your views reflect those of many Jews throughout the USA.!

We, the Jewish people, in all of its diversity, cannot turn away one friend. We need to work together to keep Israel and our Jewish family around the world, safe and secure. This can only be done together!

I wasn’t there at Beit Shemesh so I cannot condemn or not. Nonetheless, it is so painful to see that so many people – from all walks of Jewish life – are so shortsighted to believe the anti-Semitic Israeli media. I DO know that I have yet to read or see a media report about a story that I witnessed which was not slanted against either the Orthodox or the Settlers of our brethren. Why do we feel the need to side with the Israeli media? Are we so stupid as to fall in the trap they are so obviously setting us? I can remember other Yidden in our history (be it in bible times or the 1940’s) who thought they would gain by siding with the wicked – but it is too painful for me to record it in this message. I walk the streets of Yerushalayim these last two or three days and non-religious people who pass me instinctively move so as to defend themselves from my orthodox inevitable spittle as per the media brainwashing. Do we need to send these emails to our own friends? Why not just sit down and say a chapter of Tehilim instead of sending this trash? “I never found anything as good for the body as silence … and anyone who adds talk brings sin”. This is what Raban Shimon Ben Gamliel taught us in Avot . Let’s bear it in mind instead of wasting our time with the self-destructive internet. With Torah blessings of a loving, caring and hurt “Ultra Othodox” Jew. Daniel

Daniel,This is not about the Israeli media. It seems to me to be about hilul Hashem in the Orthodox world. If some in the secular press use it as an oppt'y to condemn Haredim that does not make it false. Claiming neutrality because "I wasn't there" in the face of the degree of evidence shown reminds me of those who claim they were not there and that the Jews greatly exaggerate the holocaust in order to advance an agenda. As a nation of priests we are held to a higher standard so the need to behave properly is essential to fulfill our mission.."The Torah was given to mentchen"

When wicked behavior is faced with silence,then wicked deeds triumph. The world was silent and turned a cheek with Hitler, with Stalin and countless times from biblical days. Daniel, it is time for you to look in the mirror.

I liked your response. For one, who am I to point a finger at the guy who did this (spitting on the girl) when I am not a Hareidi. Who am I to say he is or is not Jewish, because he did this. My point is, you are not, so why does anyone else feel the need to do so. Why does so many feel the need to point out the wrong in an over zealous way, unless guilty in some way of similar actions, by going out of their way to say they are not like the "spitter", they are better than that. Shouldn't people ask whose faith have they hurt before? It's up to the Hareidis to handle this, and as you have stated, silence is the approach. So way does non-Hareidis feel a need to sound off at the mouth in harsh words about a Hareidi who is dressed like one, but not acting like one. How many have said words directly in the face or ear shot, to hurt someones faith? I have had people do this to me plenty of times. So those without sin, throw the stones at the guy. I feel no need to blast the "spitter" to make myself look better, and him worst than thyself. For some guy who was being indecent to me before, I did literally spit in his face. He deserved every bit of it. If anyone wants to judge me for that, go right ahead.

It actually happened. You're not reading about a fabricated story, you're reading about a real event that really happened. Why can't you condemn (because you weren't there)? Is there a circumstance when spitting is acceptable? What about spitting on another human being? What about spitting on a child? What about spitting on an 8yo girl? This can be condemned a thousand times in the blink of an eye without need for any qualifications. What I am hearing from the other side of the story is that the Chareidim are being provoked and attacked for their way of life (segregated buses, subsidised income, etc). About the segregated buses, I think let the women have the front half of the bus and get the Chareidim some more buses obviously. However, given the Chareidim's high population growth, there needs to be a long term solution to funding their communities in a more sustainable (and less provocative) manner. Everyone should pay tax, and everyone should work a little if they can. Work is healthy for the individual and the community, as long as it's not at the expense of your "reason for living". Finally Daniel, the internet is no more self-destructive than your local book store. It is you who chooses which book to browse and which magazines to ignore. Don't be hurt, nobody is better than you in anyway shape or form. We all need to talk and listen to each other, because "silence" works sometimes, but effective communication is more reliable.

Your comment is on the mark. We only know what the media reports not really all the facts

I heard the excuse: It is only a minority of extremists. I concur. A minority of extremists are being aggressive and violent. What the Chareidim need to do is set up a task force of leaders, and meet with other ORthodox factions to create achdut. The leadership needs to condemn these acts as Aish has done. They need to officially state, as was done with Neturai Karta, to put anyone in CHerem, and remove their children from Cheder, if these horrible acts are done. If any of these characters continue with their chiilul Hashem, then they can qualify the excuse: It's only a minority.

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Negative actions are like feathers in the wind. They are difficult to take back. We are a Jewish nation and Am Israel needs to unite to dissolve our differences and realize that we are one!!! We want our land, right..... then our requirement is to be examples of unity to the whole world. Our unity of every denomination will strengthen our people and Hashem will continuously provide us with our land to flourish and share with others in peace!

thanks Aish.com for expressing this so perfectly...it brought tears to my eyes and I shared this with my fanpage, it is the best response I've seen to this horror.

well, said.

I AM A CHAREIDI WOMAN FROM BET SHEMESH AND DESPISE THE ACTIONS OF THE SPITTER AS WELL AS MANY OTHERS THEY ARE A SMALL GROUP WHO ARE DOING A BIG CHILLUL HASHEM AND RUINING OUR COMMUNITY HOPE THESE PEOPLE WILL DECIDE TO DO A BIG KIDDUSH HASHEM TO REPENT THEIR DEEDS

I am also a chareidi from Beit Shemesh and I am horrified!!!!! I hope these people do Teshuva big time.

Words strait to the heart...

What a beautiful article. We could not have said anything more, or more appropriately. "Hailvai" it can reach its target audience.

What a beautiful lesson from not only the Rav but his Rebbetzin how to be tactful, respectful, warm and friendly- and accomplish what needs to be done. Thank you.

One story of Rav Nosson Tzvi ztz"l sparks thoughts of many others. Two of our biggest tzaddikim of the twentieth century, who were revered by all Jews in all circles:the Lubavitcher Rebbe and Reb Aryeh Levin. Their stories obviously fill volumes, but here are one for each: Reb Aryeh Levin, the tzaddik of Yerushalayim, was once chastised by an acquaintance who saw him having a conversation with a woman outdoors. This woman, was wearing slacks, and was clearly not the image of a modest, observant woman. "How could you speak to someone like that, on the street?" he was questioned. His response was approximately this: " I did not notice what she was wearing. I was paying attention to her neshama." The Lubavitcher Rebbe was once walking between two columns of admirers who had come to 770 to grab an opportunity to see the Rebbe, perhaps merit a bracha. He was, mind you, as "Chareidi" as you get, and as such, would not walk between two women as proscribed by the Shulchan Aruch. To his left was a woman, to his right was the woman's daughter. He would never embarrass anyone, yet he would not compromise on his commitment to halacha. He paused and took the time to tell the daughter directly that her mother wanted her, and waited till she crossed before him and joined her mother. I know there was more to the story. It's years ago that I read this. Perhaps he gave her something and told her to give it to her mother, as he would give change to children the same as he would give adults dollars. The message is there though. Also, I have heard many frum girls wonder uncomfortably why the Alef buses send the women to the back of the bus. This compels them to walk past the men, de facto putting them on display as they walk past the men! Put them in the front. It's not a shul! Be that as it may, Torah authorities are decrying this "terrorism", but are being ignored, even intimidated! if you disregard Torah Authority you have severed your name as chareidi and should be ostracized.

There are a number of people who could learn something from this letter. I suspect that it may be the only single response that speaks to the spitter and not the entire community. It looks to me like another media smear campagin to disenfranchise the religious communities of the world. They do this all the time. We need to expose them for what they are.

Thank you. I was glad to see this type of reaction from an orthodox organization.

I hung my head in sorrow as I read this response. I am totally shocked at the actions of such a person towards a child, or indeed anyone. Doe sanyone understand the meaning of the word shame anymore? This is what should be heaped upon the head and the actions that necessitated this response.

An article that needed publication! One of the worst things about his behavior is that it gives ammunition to the Jew-haters to say, "Why should we condemn Muslim extremism? The ultra-orthodox Jews are no different!" I'm not saying they'd be right to make this comparison, but we Jews should never provide them with free bullets.

The first part of the "open letter" expressed justifiable moral outrage. The second part story about Rav Finkel demonstrated how we should go beyond that. Thank you Aish for writing this. And for those who don't know -- there has been near-universal condemnation from the Orthodox community in the U.S., Israel, and elsewhere.

I see nothing wrong with holding such obscene behavior accountable. I doubt that a these individuals would stand for such outlandish behavior with their own children yet we do not hold them accountable.

RIght on! Thank you.

Has this letter been referred for publication to the press in Israel? If so, it would be wonderful to think that it could lead to dialogue - but, in any case, it is a response reflecting the true values of Torah, written in an intelligent, articulate way -it can build bridges to the public at large. Kol Hakavod !

I am a Catholic. Your message of love moved my heart to love the Jewish people more. After all, they are the people of my Lord.

Kol Hakavod to Aish for publicly stating what needed to be said. I would hope that the letter would appear throughout Israel and sent specifically to the Rabbis of the Beit Shemesh Haredi community. Those who verbally or physically attack people that they don't agree with bring shame to the entire Torah community.

Pirkei Avos states "Kol Yisrael yaish l'chem chelek l'Olam habah". If you interpret "L'Olam habah" as the future in uour lives here on Earth, you realise that Jews from all walks of life have an equal right to a portion. So no Jew has the right to treat another as if they are not Jewish, just because they do not agree with their lifestyle. We all have the opportunity to sit back and reconsider our actions, and on Rosh Hashanah and on Yom Kippur consider changing our ways for the betterment of ourselves and our community. That is the message I would share with the misguided Jew from the Chareidi community!

One of the greatest gifts my children have given me is that they love each other. They are as different as night and day, in some respects, and very similar in others. They adore each other. And I thank HaShem for that. Please, all of us Jews must love one another. We are children of one Father. I don't agree with everyone, and everyone doesn't agree with me. But that's ok. HaShem loves all of us. If He finds something to love, can't we also?

This article moved me to tears. We have to love one another just because. No other reason. Just because. One of my children said to me a few years ago, "Mom, I just read that a rabbi wrote that a parent wants that her children should love each other more than that they should love the parent. Is that true?" I started to cry and exclaimed, "Of course!" That is what HaShem wants. He doesn't care if we don't love Him, so long as we love each other. If we love each other, we DO love Him. Our enemies LOVE this division within us! Please, for love of HaShem, we must stop and love one another. Just because. No other reason. Just because. Our survival, and the sanctification of G*d's Name, depend on it.

I grew up in a non observant home. This love for all Jews is what has drawn me to traditional Judaism.

merci pour cet article, il reflète la manière d'accepter la religion telle qu'elle nous a été enseignée. On nous a toujours appris qu'il fallait respecter tout le monde hommes et femmes quel que soit leur religion, les enfants et les personnes âgées. La conduite de ces gens est absolument scandaleuse et au nom de la religion on ne doit pas accepter, parce qu'ils n'ont rien compris au judaïsme.

I'm with you and agree from bottom of my heart that this behavior - conduct is unfair, unfortunate and sick. Tolerance and love,respect for each other should be a priority especially in Israel - since our enemies are waiting and hoping for display of disorder, disrespect and disobedience of G.d Love Israel and all good and human it stands for.

Bravo for stating this so succinctly. B"H.

both articles were very well stated. - one of anger, and one of reason

Your letter is beautiful, but unfortunately it is falling on deaf ears. These are not rational people and do not relate to others with words of love, understanding and compassion. They only know words of intimidation, belittlement, and hate. May all the Jewish people and their leaders stand up together as one and show that we will not allow anyone to behave in a manner that makes a mockery of our Torah and a desecration of G-d's name.

What sort of religious Jewish man harasses a little girl? It is unseemly, un-G-dly and reflects poorly on Jews. I hope the man takes up your dare!

It brought tears to my eyes

What amazing heights people can reach! Thank you for the inspiration.

Thank you for this. We all have so much to get through in terms of misunderstanding, our personal histories and anger turned to rage. Compassionate teachers are hard to find, and the Torah is the greatest teacher of all, when presented through Her extraordinary lens of Light and Love juxtaposed to human difficulties that is also illustrated. I do hope conversations towards healing can take place. I might choose "invite" instead of "dare." - With all respect, DC

Your letter has deepend my love of Torah. Thank you..

Thank you. It is a narrative of compassion using imagination rather than righteousness. In fact, it is an example of "pure" Righteousness. Thank you.

The first letter provoked me to anger just like the writer. The second letter stirred my emotions to weeping. The way of Torah .... is the way of HaShem.

What a beautiful response to a repulsive kneejerk reaction! I hope our spitter is having regret and will agree to sit down and talk to you perhaps if he knows he will be received with an open heart and an open mind he will, That is what we all need is to be open to accept our fellow Jew from where they are coming from and hope to be role models for truth. May we be zoche to live together in peace.

I appreciate this article's message - how dare one jew tell another that they are not jewish, just because they are different? One of the reasons I embrace Judaism is because it allows people to THINK for themselves, not just follow written guidelines like sheep; It is so wonderfully open to interpretation, but demands acts of respect and kindness towards others, not hatred.

First of all well done this is a fantastic Torah/Jewish response and 100% necessary to be heard by the minority of Jews that are disturbing the peace of their fellows neighbourhood....BUT WHAT NOW? Do these individuals have internet, let alone look at the aish website???? If somebody reading this or someone they know can make a difference to make peace and spread ahvas yisroel please please do!

this article pertains to absolutely every human being may it be so... "Abandon your hate and together let's choose the Torah's path of warmth and understanding. I dare you." I 'dare me' myself -

A "religious" person who commits such an act, especially against a child, is no better than one who defaces a holy place. People are still Hashem's children and to defile one of His children is unacceptable.

I think this is written SO well, So beautifully, I truly envy the person who had the ZECHUS to compose this - to portray the way the vast majority of CHAREDI Jews here in Israel relate to this issue! Tizku Limitzvos!

Thank you for your response on this issue. It is important to distinguish between the generally accepted beliefs and behaviors of the community and the misguided actions of certain members of the community. Your position is welcome. Beyond the article itself, the reader responses to it tell another important story. Most responses were supportive. Some responses question the “Jewishness” of the offender. Others were defensive, challenging the motives of the “leftist” or secular press, suggesting that they are a kind of enemy with nefarious motives. What is clear from the article and the responses is that we are a community divided. Too frequently, secular Israelis feel themselves coerced by official religious institutions and unofficial defenders of the faith as they see it. Religious Israelis (especially Haredim) find lack of consideration for their religious obligations by the secular or “less religious” communities. Toleration is frequently lacking. Suspicion abounds. Politics and demagoguery are rampant. If we are to survive, we must reach out to one another with mutual respect and patience. We must agree that we cannot force our own views on others. We must seek common ground, share responsibilities, and cease exploitation of one another. Those among us who cannot understand this should be educated. Those among us who would tear us apart must be isolated.

I shudder at the chilul Hashem.

Kol Hakavod! Thank you for writing and taking this stance. Israel and the Jews suffer enough condemnation from the world. We do not need this kind of publicity. As the great sages Hillel and Rabbi Akiva said-all the Torah is based on "Veahavta L'raacha Kamocha". In this way we will be mekarev klal yisrael to Hashem's beautiful Torah.

Thank you for your immediate and perfectly pitched response to the insanity that has undoubtedly been beamed around the world as a chillul Hashem. Your poignant letter echoes our thoughts comletely. Your message needs to be conveyed loudly to the non-Jewish world too, through whatever channels are possible! Shakoiach.

The reason the 2nd Temple was destroyed was because of baseless hatred/lashon hara among jews! This letter says it excellently! How could you - with one side of your mouth pray for Moshiach - and with the other side - be the cause of Moshiach not coming! You really need to re-examine who you are and what you believe!

The Jewish people, in order to be able to fulfill its mission as Or Hagoyim, a light onto nations, must show a strong reaction to any extremism ... wherever it comes from.

I agree with you 100%, but you should also address comment to secular Jews who show disrespect to Religious Jews, long before this whole current issue blew up.

Let's just say there is enough blame to go around on all sides. Oftentimes what religious Jews view as disrespect is merely lack of knowledge on the part of uninformed secular Jews. A little bit of understanding and and compassion can go a long way, as illustrated by this article.

First, this was a little girl, who was not secular at all, and was trying to go to a religious school. This man was totally out of line. Second, it is a great ma'alah to hear oneself insulted and not respond. It's high time that the volume of the disputes be lowered and that they be conducted with respect. And it is obviously up to the religious to lead the way, like R. Finkel. But of course this person's frumkeit didn't go any deeper than the brim of his black hat. I am, as best I know, the only observant Jew in the small Iowa town (about 300 Jews total out of about 8000) I live in and I am always very careful how I behave when I'm around others. I didn't grow up observant and it's a great struggle sometimes, and there are times when I fall, but just making the effort and keeping my position as Gd's "sales rep" in mind keeps the mind most wonderfully collected, and refines the character. This person should try it some time.

If the facts are as they seem I wholeheartedly join all those who were appalled by this act. B U T - The media in Israel does not report the news but creates it. There have been cases in the past where the media (in collaboration with others) staged a whole act and then reported on it as if it was "real". So before deciding on anything the real questions to ask are was the perpetrater caught (when the police want to act they know how), were charges brought against him & does he/he's family really belong to the social group he is identified with.

I am hesitant to call these fringe people extremists. Extremist has a connotation that this is a natural progression when something is carried to its extreme conclusion. I believe that there are many good people who have very strict personal standards (call them chareidi if you will) who have nothing, absolutely nothing in common with the people getting attention.

Keep the disagreements within the Beis Medrash. Fight from positions of mutual respect. Act in an honorable way, and you are much more likely to gain support for your position. You can at least make your position better understood so that you can be respected. Rudeness and dishonorable behavior are wrong no matter who is doing it. I remember when I was in high school and first started to become frum through NCSY and the community of Lakewood, NJ. They took me in and showed me what Torah is really about and I decided that this was what I needed for myself. I challenge those who did the spitting and namecalling to be brave and frum enough to apologize. If you are so zealous for Torah, then be brave enough to sit down at a Shabbos table with those you offended and share a sincere conversation. Discuss your viewpoints and even debate, and perhaps agree to disagree. When the meal is over, shake hands and wish each other well. You will then have turned this incident into an opportunity to make a Kiddush Hashem on a very high level. I give you a berachah that your efforts to bring reconciliation within Klal Yisrael should bring the Geulah and that Moshiach should come in your merit-AMEN V'AMEN!!

I've spent the past week defending Israel and Orthodox Jews to my non aligned Jewish and non Jewish friends alike. My first reaction to the article was to want to take a baseball bat to the "spitters" but thanks to the author I see another route. There is no reason to join the "spitters" in the behavior they've exhibited.

I'm glad you put this letter on your site. It's very important for Orthodox Jews to take a stand against extremists in our midst.

Thank you so much for writing the open letter & defending this poor child. Your letter makes my heart & soull feel better & makes me feel better as aJew.

As Jews we share with Hashem a conviction that our fellow man is precious and it is our obligation to preserve that special spirit and soul which He has created..

more is beeing achived by mutual respect and love than by hate and disrespect.If someone is not like you does'nt mean he is a bad jew.Cothes cover the body but not the soul!

Spitting on that poor girl is what the goyim used to do to us in the pale. Now there are those of us who do the same to . For shame!

Your letter is all that I felt when I heard the news.

i couldnt have put it better myself. All you need is love

thank you for the beautiful story of rav finkel. ztzl moshiach is not here because the sinaat chinam that we all have for eachother. thank you for this article. kol hakavod

There is also a story of a well known Gadol (great Rabbi) who was on a bus in Jerusalem and an immodestly dressed girl sat next to him on the bus. He pushed the button for the bus stop and politely asked to get up, and got off at the stop. Someone who knew the Rabbi asked the Rabbi why he got off at a stop that wasn't what he needed and didn't asked the girl not sit next to him. The Rabbi replied, that while it was not appropriate for him to sit next to her, he also did not wish to embarass her. So he waited for a bus stop, as she would have no idea which stop is his. The Torah is perfect and we have great individuals within in Klal Yisrael who strive for the highest heights of Ahavas Yisrael (loving other Jews). We should look up to these great examples as being representative of our holy Torah. In doing so we need to speak-up and point to the real examples of those who uphold our Torah.

Indeed your story is absolutely accurate. I heard this from a friend who had seen our Rosh Yeshiva, Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach on the way to the Yeshiva, Kol Torah, when this incident occurred. I heard it from my friend at the time and sure enough the story has become famous to this day. The great Torah personalities of the world are the ones whose example we have beeen priveleged to witness. Let's all learn from them and improve our lives and those of others.

i was outraged to hear of the incident and i hope that this will prove to the world that we love and care for each and every one of our brothers and sisters no matter who they are or where they come from.

At the end of your article you write, "No yelling, no threats, no spitting. Just love, respect and compassion of one Jew for another. Maimonides writes (Laws of Character Development, 6:7) that the only way to draw people close is through love. That is how the Almighty relates to us, and that is how He wants us to relate to others." However, the beginning of the article felt as though it was full of yelling and lacking love. Maybe we have to learn to love even those that we find to be infuriating.

What a beautiful way to express your outrage. I particularly enjoy your last line imploring the spitter to find love instead. I hope we can find a way into the spitter's heart through love and help him back to the path of the Torah.

One of my friends in Israel pointed out that the 8 year-old girl in question was, in fact, dressed tzius-ly. My friend was concerned that your article implies that she might not have been. And, when I re-read it, I saw where she got that impression. You might want to consider a clarification so that people reading your article wouldn't get the wrong idea, G-d forbid.

On behalf of my co-religionists, I am truly sorry for what you have been through. I invite you to come to Israel and live here. There are plenty of people around who would welcome you with open arms - not least of which are in Aish HaTorah. There are even a few people similar to yourself who live in Beit Shemesh (as I do)...

Thank you for this article. Please spread it throughout global media venues.

Kol Hakavod to the aish staff for taking a stand on this crazy situation.

What an outstanding article. Thank you for presenting such a heartfelt story to your readers.

i am a jewish woman of carribean and jewish descent, i live in the northwest, somehow people here dont think one with carmel coulour skin can be jewish, i have been told i was not a real jew becasue my mother is jewish my father of carribean descent, i have been called names as a child and rejected by adults at my age even now at 43, i miss going to temple, but i stopped because i found my self being treated differently by a few people, i have moved but am still sad on the sabbath and very alone as i am single, the friends i thought i had have told me they dont believe that a brown skin woman can be a jew my mother was jewish, i am jewish, i used to be very activee, i suppose i allowed a few people tell me i had no place, i should have not stopped but i wanted to let that mean person know how much pain hatred casues, and wjen jews in america who are secular most of the time except on holy days proclaim to know G-D proclaim peace yet treat others who look differnt with covert hate with questioning, it hurts. it hurts so much, it is not this way everyplace in the pacific northwest, but when you get a new rabbi who asks "was your mother jewish, yur father where was he from your a beautiful colour" I walked away and never looked back. i ama shy person and this kind of hate covert or not, hurts the heart annd soul. thank you for letting me have my voice.

Zoe, I am sorry this has happened to you. I pray that you gain the strength to get over the hurt & feelings of betrayal. You are a Jew. Never allow another Jew to take that away from you. We would all be on the train to the death camps together.

My heart goes out to you and the pain you’re in. If your mother is Jewish, no matter what others say or how they treat you, you ARE a Jew... and I’m sorry you are going through this pain. It is wrong to tell someone that they are any different of a Jew because of their skin color. Stay strong!!!

I am so sorry that you had to go through that even as an adult. I believe that the letter can be extended to include your situation.

dear zoe - please don't let your life be influenced by the ones who have - often out of very different reasons - difficulties to accept others as what they are and to find the lovely sides every human being has. b'zelem elokim we are all build. i hope you find very soon the energy and the calm to confront pain and not to take it personally. go with the people who are NOT like the ones who insulted you, be sure there are a lot out there in the world. may Hashem bless you and may you speedily find your way back to where your soul longs for and where you belong - the jewish people. Reisel

Hi Zoe - I'm sorry to hear about your pain. I'm sure you're deeply familiar with the lie, "Sticks and stones... but names will never hurt me." That, as you know, is FAR from being true. That is why Hashem places so much emphasis on the laws concerning Speech and the sensitivity required to have towards others. If you look throughout the Torah you will see this theme over and over. I have a question for you, however. You stated that you stopped going to shul and stopped lighting candles because of all the rejection you were receiving. My question is, "Does your belief and devotion to Hashem rely upon others?" If there is a G-d and if the Torah is true, then doesn't it make sense to follow it regardless of how others will look upon us? Why should some foolish comments made by foolish people stop you from being as righteous as you can? Look at King David. His brothers thought he was a bastard (and treated him poorly because of it for years); His father-in-law tried to kill him; and his enemies looked for every possibility to disparage his name. What did he do? He turned to Hashem and expressed himself through his writings (Tehillim/psalms). These psalms are so endearing that even the gentiles read them and quote them often. David didn't run away from G-d because of his troubles. Just the opposite! It was all that disparagement and harassment that got him to become such a devout Jew. Please think about this. May Hashem comfort you and bring true happiness into your life. P.S. If finances allow I recommend making a trip to Israel with intent to discover your roots.

thank you for your leter, istill ight the candls on shabbat, i still make a small shabbat dinner , but i am in my nature a people person, so it is hard to feel this pain, I idid not run away from G-d, i am just rying to get my footing again, my shyness doesnt help , thank yu for your lovely letter, zoe

Don't let anyone tell you that you are not Jewish. Go to synagogue find a community that is accepting. In fact go to Chabad. They can help. By all means keep your head up and feel proud.

thank you , i hadnt told many people about what had happened, i try not to be shy, it is in my nature i suppose, i try not to be sad, i love going to shul, just a tiny bit of fear still thee inside, i light my candles and make my meal, i am now living in a new place and one of the tenants found out i am jewish and is trying to tell me i should be christian, she leaves tracs on my door, i dont understand why others feel i should be christian, or pass judgements on my being jewish, this tenanat left a chrsitmas present on my doorstep i returned it with a note saying thank yu for your kind thoughts but i am jewish and celebrate channukah, please dot send cards or christmas presents to me for this reason. she became angry and left a bible, this was this past christmas, i had to call the owner of the building and ask her to help me she told the tenant to respect others wishes and my religion is not to be put down. that helped alot as i had the other issue and am getting better from that pain. why do people try to change us? why cant we just live together in peace, perhaps i am naieve, or stupid, it just doesnt make any sense. i have friends of diffrent backgrounds i dont try to drive my beliefs down their throats, i just stay to myself, i dont want to , i am trying hard to get out again, i cravve community so badly that i cry, i run to G-d, yet sometimes i feel to shy to talk to him. and when i was moving in 2 weeks ago, i lost my prayer books all of my jewish library, my rabbi tulushkin books, my whole library, does anyone know where i can get used prayer books, talmud, jewish books , to rebuild my libray, i am not a rich woman, i am disbaled and poor becasue of health matters , if anyone knows how i can obtain used books , please wrote back to me.

Your evident pain brought tears to my eyes. Go back to the rabbi and talk to him. Every Jew needs community. Go back, and be the active and beautiful Jew that you are.

As I read the article, my natural response was, "you tell him," as it mimicked my own feelings. Thinking a bit deeper though I wonder if the writer is trying to make things better, or is simply embarrassed by the negative attention. The letter reads a lot like an out of control rant. Certainly the action itself is reprehensible, but Yiddishkeit is not a religion that condemns someone for a Chet. Ki Sheva Yipol Tzaddik V'Kom. We can disagree with the action and express out feelings strongly, without blind anger and that was what the article feels like. If we want others to love (as the story of Rav Nosson Tzvi and his wife so beautifully demonstrates) we must ourselves love others, even those who have taken a misstep. We must help people recognize that while they may believe they are doing Ratzon HaBoreh, at times they may be confusing personal agendas with the Torah's agenda. Just my humble opinion...

I think part of the issue is that we sort of have a knee-jerk reaction -- because most Muslims DON'T condemn other Muslims who do terrible things, we feel the need to show that we're not like that. OTOH, Orthodox Jews are the Jews of Jews. IOW, just as the world has their anti-Semites, Jews have their anti-Orthodox and Orthodox have their anti-Hareidi. There are definitely non-observant who will justify their behavior by pointing to all the people who purport to be Orthodox who do horrible things. But, at the risk of sounding like I'm using a "no true Scottsman" argument, no true G-d fearing Jew would do that sort of thing. If we condemn people who do things that like we get criticized for not standing with our brothers/sisters. If we don't condemn them, we sound like we're condoning them. Darned if we do and darned if we don't. I believe that condemning a person for doing a specific thing is just that -- condemning A PERSON for AN ACT. Keep it in perspective.

Your editorial was so thoughtfully written.

I had to spend over an hour at work explaining to my non jewish work colleagues that not all religious people behave like this and im not even religious.

Beautifully stated... I have said many times it isn't what you wear on your body it's whats inside that counts. Black hats, long beards and black coats don't make you a G-d fearing person ... but love and understanding do. Go back and read the Torah, and spend sometime trying to understand the saying "V'ohavta l'reiacha komocha". If you need a translation look it up!

well said!!!

I am so impressed with Aish HaTorah. You really get it. This letter is right on, courageous, and in tune with true Jewish values. Your outreach videos are great too - I listen to the Rosh HaShana one a lot. Keep up the great work.

Beautifully said, if only those need this will actually read it!

This article should not only be an open letter on Aish.com, but sent to the world media. As a Rabbi of a community in Elstree I was pained and ashamed that our brothers behave this way. Ahavat chinam is the only way to bring mashiach. Your story was indicative of the greatness of our gedolim (torah leaders) - they see the Jewish Soul before them - not the physical body. The BBC, and other media outlets are having a field day with this story. I realy feel strongly this letter should be sent to the The Times, Daily Mail and other such UK newspapers to set the record straight. There is a lot of darkness in the world - but AISH lights it up!

B'H My thoughts exactly. Kol Hakavod. May all Israel learn to love and respect one another. Shabbat Shalom, Steve

We implore him to abandon his hate, but do we abandon ours? I pray that Go"d should help us all learn to love our fellow Jews, and return us all to Teshuvah.

Something bad happens and you immediately spring into action to voice your disapproval. No brushing under the carpet, no irrational defensive stance, no excuses, no lack of conscience, no lack of will to exercise your conscience in broad daylight, and not extremist in your response. Israel, you truly are a light unto the world - but you already knew that.

thank you for your lovely comment

How well said! We need to bring people closer with love, not criticism.

Shame on the men that call themselves Chassidic, Orthodox,What kind of Torah do you follow? Who spits on another human being??? A child no less!!! shame on you,......

agree 100% whatever they are, they are not religious jews

You brought tears to my eyes and likewise washed them clear of the distortions these men placed in front of them when they spat at and cursed children. Everyone, regardless of faith, should read this.

It is difficut to say but is true. There are bullies everywhere. Don't let these horrid individuals make it seem that Torah wants this. Torah is light.

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The leftists are using the rest of the community as a pawn for their political and anti-religious goals, same as the tent-protests throughout the country this past summer. Their social agenda does not include religion or religious people and the religious community cannot support them even though it desparately needs affordable housing no less than the protesters. The chareidi leadership does codemn the violence, but does not join demonstrations highjacked by leftists.

Thank you for saying what I, and I'm sure so many others have been thinking since we heard this story.

We are rushing, once again, to make sure that we name a fringe minority as despicable. It's true, he is. There is a bigger problem here. Tthe media has had a field day putting down the chareidim and I don't hear much of an uproar about that (Hamodia did cover it some). I have many chareidi friends. Not one of them condone or would do such a thing. But their voice isn't really heard in all of this because too many people are too busy bashing them. Standing united means we have to acknowledge the tremendous GOOD in our chareidi family. There are nuts every day doing cruel things so why did the media jump all over this? Because they will take any opportunity to show chareidim as bad guys. I do understand the emotion of this article and I love the story of acceptance. The heart of this article is the story of the loving rebbe. *That* should have been the headline, because this happens every day. But it's not newsworthy enough. I love Aish.com but I want to say "wake up" and don't contribute to the finger pointing and animosity that is being created by the media. This article makes a good point but the headline and drama of it feel like fuel to the fire. How about an article to the media: How Dare You--You are divisive at a time when we need unity. What is really going on in the media's strong coverage of this story? I believe there is more than meets the eye.

Aish should expose the chareidi bashers and the provocateurs. It should not too be difficult to uncover. Their deliberate provocations and lies are purely for political gain. In the very same article, the tremendous goodness and kindness in religious communities should be highlighted to counterbalance the negativity. I'm not condoning the spitter at all. Just saying that I grew up being spit at by goyim and my brother's kippah thrown off his head and it never made the news. This violence which is truly disgusting, does not represent the Jewish religious community and should not be in the headlines for weeks on end. Nor should "segregation of women" on bus lines running through religious neighborhoods where women choose (and are not forced) to sit separately.

Second paragraph of the letter begins "How dare you call yourself a Hareidi,". the letter is rightly criticising one individual, not a group. and certainly not the Hareidi.

http://www.lakewoodlocal.com/2011/12/28/agudah-statement-on-recent-happenings-in-beit-shemesh/

The media clearly takes almost every opportunity to portray chareidim negatively. Attacking them on that issue now, would appear as if chareidim are avoiding the main issue on hand.

The leftist Israeli media just keeps on looking for any stories to make Chareidim look bad. Anything against religion and religious people is going against G-D! it is not necessarily the people themselves they are going against. In general Dati and Chareidi Jews do Hashem's will and that's what bothers the non religious Jews (even if they don't acknowledge that) . Needless to say that knowing that we need to act even more responsible to make sure not to cause extra bad media coverage and Chilul Hashem. Hopefully some Rabbis would rise up and try to stop such terrible terrorizing behavior which has not started with the latest story but has been going on, by extremists who do NOT act like Torah Jews, for a while. May we all do Hashem's real will and not a distorted version we made up in our heads AMEN

Laya, I think you are misunderstanding the article. It defends the Haredim by pointing out that the spitters' behavior is NOT in accord with true Haredi behavior, as exemplified in the story about Rabbi and Rebbetzin Finkel. I agree with you concerning the media; this matter of exaggeration and creating tensions between groups is endimic in today's media and not confined to stories about Haredim.

Thank you for the open letter condemning this behavior. I truly appreciate that someone has taken the time to write a letter that is open, caring and states quite articulately what I would never be able to say because I would be (and still am) frothing at the mouth at this behavior Thank you.

I am a non-Jew, who was not raised religious and became a Christian at the age of 18 in 1998. From my study of the Bible, I've grown in my Hebrew and my love for the Jewish people. The Jewish people are the most genius, incredible, odds-defying folks on planet earth - they are living proof that God exists, and is actively engaged in his world. What disappoints me about the Beit Shemesh 'spitter', besides the harm done to the little girl which is terrible, is that it paints a totally inaccurate picture of Am Yisrael for the world, and will be used by ignorant anti-semites to influence people who don't know their right hand from their left. I know that this does not accurately represent Orthodox Jews, but how many other non-Jews know this? I pray the person who spit on the girl will make t'shuva and ask for forgiveness from the little girl and her family. I also pray that this incident will not be effective in anti-semitic propaganda. What it teaches me though, is that we can be very religious on the outside, and not very frum on the inside. Let us be like the Aron Kodesh - Gold on the outside, Gold on the Inside! Am Yisrael Chai!

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Mark, I have lived in religious neighborhoods for years and have never seen spitting, stone throwing, whispering or rude comments to women dressed differently than the local standard. They are a fringe group who don't follow religious guidance, but rather their own violent nature. Your relationship with Hashem should be based on what is right and true. The Torah is true no matter how some people abuse it and behave in horrible ways supposedly to defend it. Why don't you look at the other side: the unbelievable levels of chessed/kindness in the Torah communities - all the big and small gemachim (free loans of all types) and the huge chessed organizations run by chareidi people? Ezra uMarpeh, Lev Malka, Bayit Cham, Yad Ezra V'Shulamit, Yad Sarah, Ezer Mi'Zion, Yad Eliezer, Meir Panim, Hatzala, Zaka - I could go on and on. Let yourself be inspired by these Jews who are loving, kind and caring because the Torah taught them to be so, and ignore the abusers who truly represent no one other than their own, uncontrolled natures and certainly not the Jewish religion! Throughout the centuries every Jewish religious community had an array of chessed societies: Someich Noflim (support for poor families), Linas Hatzedek (providing medical equipment and drugs), Bikkur Cholim (visiting the sick), Hachnosas Orchim (hospitality to travelers), Hachnasas Kallah (financial aid for poor brides), a Hekdesh (shelter) and, of course, the Chevra Kaddisha (burial society). These were all financed by the kehilla/community. Be proud of Judaism; it is a beautiful, kind, loving and caring religion, G-d's operating instructions for the Jewish nation. Ignore those who defy those instructions, distortedly in defense of Judaism. Acquire truth, not distortion. The best of luck to you!

any of these idiots who do such actions should 1st think to themselves, what would the Chofetz Chaim do? What would Rav Chaim do? I don't think they would yell, spit, or curse anyone no matter their religious affiliation or dress. These people have to stop being "more religious than the pope"

The chofetz chaim is quite clear on this: The spitter (if there actually was one) violated halacha by embarrassing one person. The girl's mother not only is guilty of "havalvin p'nei chavaroi b'rabim" but a grave chilul Hashem by taking her incident (if it indeed did occur) to the media.

It's just as wrong to do something negative to someone who they think is doing something wrong. It's one thing if someone thinks someone is doing something wrong and they SPEAK to them gently, but it's another thing to actually do a sin ourself in reaction. For example, I remember when someone I know got upset and was talking harshly about someone. I was worried that their anger might hurt our parnassah and so i got angry at him and spoke harshly. Looking back, I realize that was not the right thing because that probrably would only make things worse, like double jeopardy. The best thing would have been that i speak calmly to him and pray to Hashem and trust that Hashem continues to provide. We shouldn't sin inorder to fix a sin, there are better ways to do things

Wow, I loved your story about Rabbi and Rebbetzin Finkel. I am so impressed. That's a great example of how we can give guidance about modesty, but in a sensitive way. Thank you for sharing.

Thank you for your remarks. Whatever happened to Love your fellow Jew as yourself.

I came on aish.com specifically to see if you had an article about this incident. i was glad to see not only did you cover the story, but with an inspiring article. way to go

Those who harrass women for their "immodest" dress are exemplars of those who use relgious belief only to control the behavior of others. By their inherent nature they are irreligious. Judaism ( and relgion in general) is meaningful to the degree that its teachings are sought and embraced. It is soulless and demeaning to the extent that it is forced upon others.

Thank you for this liberating article. It's about time someone has stood up for true Judaism. Aish.com staff, like the Macabees of old, are true Jewish heroes.

i liked the last line too.

Unfortunately, the "spitter" probably doesn't have a computer to be able to read these sound words. This is really written beautifully. The spitter will continue to spit, and there is no changing his views. Its a waste of time. Ignore him, and move on. The spitter and his friends cannot be called Jews, in the true sense of the word. Hashem will deal with him after 120, if he should live that long. Looks like the public will help him meet his maker sooner!

No truer words can be spoken but,, unfottunately, how likely is it (based on this medium) that they will ever reach their intended target?!

Who is this woman who published her story as if that man represents Orthodox Jewry? of course his behavior is inappropriate. and probably not as common as the media bias would lead a person to believe. but who does this woman think she is to make a spectacle of herself and of the Jewish people. Im disgusted by both of their behavior. anyone who calls him/herself religious, has interacted with secular Jewry, and who has a brain, should know better. we have enough misconceptions publicized in the NY Times about Orthodoxy without her help.

Any adult that threatens and spits on an 8-year-old child is obviously more than a little unhinged. This person needs a psychiatric evaluation more than a talking-to.

Let's all try emulating Rav Nosson Tzvi and perhaps we can change the tide.

You have staed what I have been feeling. Thank you.

Jews that spit on other Jews are not religious, are not charedi, are mechalel shem shomayim in public, and disagree with a mishna in pirkei Avos: Perek 4, mishna 10: ד,י ; ואל תאמר קבלו דעתי, שהן רשאין ולא אתה.

are these the same despicable ones who went to Iran to show support for Ahmedinijad?Who is their rabbi/leader?We need moshiach now.R' Noach is crying....

"Religious" Jews who act this way are disgusting and make me ashamed to be Jewish. We must present a good face to the world as we represent G-D and are supposed to be a light unto the nations. I don't care what piece of clothing you wear, you are not a religious Jew if you act this way and these actions are making the outside world more anti-semitic.

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The higher up rabbnic leadership does not condone these actoins. They do not tell jews to throw rocks on shabbat, spit at people, set dumpsters on fire or destroy personal property. The official rabbanic leadership condemns these actions, calling them a hilul hashem. Some small time nobodys who beg more then learn say these actions are fine. No rosh yeshiva is telling his brouchim to go out and spit on 8 year old girls.

This article speaks from the heart but is still informed and wise. I don't know why people will claw at each other if given a chance, and even to a young child! This article is spot on in terms of a response but I feel that we should get to know the people who spread the hate. What has caused them to get to the point where spitting on a child is acceptable? We have to know the roots of these problems in order to solve them. The rebuke is a good first step.

Thank you so much for writing this letter! It is everything I was thinking put down into words. People need to know that they are not religious Jews and that we don't condemn this!

we don't condone this***!

Thank you so much for responding to this amazing letter and agreeing with it, however, as much as annoying as all the "grammar police" and "spell check police" are, I feel in this instance justified. You do not condone the actions of these people, you condemn them. Those two words have very different meanings, please pay attention.

We need to be united and it's now that our Rabbis, our scholars, our people must show that we are strong and respectful to each other! Everybody must reject this extremist atitude and cheer our women and children, for every spit, more hugs and affection! How can someone that reads Shir ha Shirim to be this disrespectful, that's hillul HaShem!

I am a new residentof beit shemesh and i have only had positive experiences with the beit shemesh chareidi community. The people who spit and act like this are a very small minority. It is frustrating how a beautiful community like beit shemesh gets slandered by a few bad apples.

That is the problem every time something like this happens. one 'charedi' (used loosely) burns a garbage and the newspaper are full with how awful the charedim are.

This letter isn't attacking the entire community, just the culprit(s). I'd salute those who didn't take part in the attacks if they would step up and do something about it