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Making the Sacrifice

What are you willing to give up for your beliefs? A lesson from Israeli soldiers.

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Published: August 9, 2014

Visitor Comments: 9

(5) Anonymous, August 14, 2014 8:35 AM

Our soldiers need more than candy

Your daughter said “I want to be a soldier!” It is a very laudable attitude, unfortunately not completely shared by those ultra-orthodox communities sending candy to our secular and orthodox (not ultra) children in the IDF. 35 years ago I said “I want to be a soldier,” and I became a combat soldier in the IDF. Four years ago, my older daughter said “I want to be a soldier,” and she became an officer in the IDF. Recently, my younger daughter said “I want to be a soldier,” and this month she started basic training for a combat unit in the IDF. Perhaps, if the ultra-orthodox community felt as your daughter does and sent its sons (and daughters) to the IDF (or at least to alternative national service), there might be more understanding and cooperation among the Jewish People. You ask the right questions. Is the ultra-orthodox community willing to contribute to the security of Israel when it is inconvenient? Is that community willing to share the burden with other Jewish communities in Israel and make the sacrifices that the rest of us make? Or will they be content to send candy. I look forward to the day when all Jews in Israel will freely want to share responsibility for our common welfare.

Anonymous, August 14, 2014 11:44 AM

Real Contributions

First of all not only do "ultra" Orthodox Jews sacrifice for the IDF and IN the IDF, but they are actually some of the most decorated members of the force and are the greater part of some of the most elite forces.

Secondly the Torah itself teaches that the success of the Jewish people at war comes from the שעריך ירושלים from those who sit in the gates of Jerusalem learning Torah. (Many officers in the army, not all ultra-Orthodox, have said this as well.

Thirdly, few societies encourage, and fewer insist, that their female population join their armies. Just look at the pregnancy and abortion rates of those that do and you will understand why.

Finally, only an ultra-Orthodox hatred, based on an ultra-misunderstanding, and ultra-misinformation for and about Torah-true Judaism, could lead someone to your conclusions.

צא ולמד and you will not only understand, but will be grateful for the sacrifices of those who sit and toil in the Gates of Jerusalem.

May you and your family be forever blessed.

Aaron, August 15, 2014 6:39 PM

totally in agreement

To real contributions.
Thank you for your reply to more than candy. you are bang on!
May all jews merit having a Torah(truthful) outlook on such critical,emotionally charged issues.

Anonymous, August 16, 2014 9:06 AM

Please help me understand

It is not my intention to have a tit-for-tat argument on the pages of this site, so this will be my last comment on the subject.
Please look again at my post. I make statements about myself and my family, but I make no statements about the ultra-orthodox (Haredi) community. I only ask questions. You charge me with hatred and misunderstanding, but I have only asked questions. Perhaps you are uncomfortable with your own answers to those questions.
It is a fact that there is an ongoing debate in Israel on the low level of Haredi participation in national service. This debate is playing out in the Knesset and in the courts. It is a fact that most Haredi young men do not serve in the army or participate in other forms of recognized national service. (A few Haredi men do serve, and their service is honored and respected.) It is a fact that alternative non-military service is available to both men and women who do not want to serve in the army for legitimate reasons, and the Haredi community is also under-represented in this service. Why is this so? I do not understand why you charge me with hatred for asking questions that all Israelis are or should be asking. Perhaps there are things that I do not understand, but in that case, why do you attack me instead of enlightening me?
I hope for unity of the Jewish People. I support the defense and welfare of all people in Israel regardless of their backgrounds or beliefs. I believe that to prevent שנאת חינם, we must all join together, speak with each other in civil discourse, work together, and share the burdens of citizens in a free democracy. If this is hatred, then I truly do not understand.

Anonymous, August 15, 2014 6:48 PM

The truth

I do not know if you are orthodox. Our Sages teach us that one true Torah Scholar has the power -spiritual protection of 4 0, 0 0 0 .00!!!! soldiers. You surely realize that our existence as a nation defies the laws of nature.

How many open miracles accured and are accuring in this Gaza offnsive?

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