Hobby Lobby will now carry Hanukkah items.
The giant craft-store chain announced this about-face after a blogger accused it of anti-Semitism because it refused to carry Hanukah or Jewish-themed craft products, a claim the company denies.
Claims that Hobby Lobby is somehow anti-Jewish have been filling the blogosphere, ever since a Jewish shopper in New Jersey asked a Hobby Lobby sales clerk why there were no Hanukkah items in their “holiday” display, and was allegedly told because “we don’t cater to you people”.
The story quickly went viral.
When it landed in my in-box, I wondered if it was true. Why not call up my own local Hobby Lobby, myself, I thought, and see what they had to say?
“Um” I began, feeling very self-conscious, “I was just wondering – do you carry Hanukkah decorations?”
“No” the saleswoman said immediately.
“Really?” I asked, intrigued, all traces of embarrassment gone – “why ever not?”
“I don’t know” the woman replied, again a little too quick, I thought.
“Do you sell any Jewish-themed decorations” I pressed? “Like – um – stars or cards or stuff?”
“No,” came the brisk reply.
“Do you think you’ll be getting any in?” I groped.
“I don’t know” was her quick answer, and our conversation was done.
The publicity over Hobby Lobby’s refusal to carry Hanukkah items came to light when a blogger in New Jersey, hearing about his friend’s allegedly rude treatment in her local store, called the company headquarters in Oklahoma and was told – bizarrely – that Hobby Lobby had a policy of not carrying Jewish items due to the strong “values” of the owner, Steve Green.
If that name is familiar, it’s because Hobby Lobby owner and multimillionaire Mr. Green has been in the news a lot lately. A committed Christian, he’s currently a litigant in a case that’s been sent to the Supreme Court over the right of his private company not to fund employee health plans that include contraception.
And in the midst of the Hobby Lobby Hanukkah decoration flap, Mr. Green – who is an avid collector of religious works – unveiled a 1,200 year old Jewish prayer book he’d just bought from a private collector.
Wondering how he’d explain his refusal to stock Jewish items – and if it is in fact a policy at all – I e-mailed Mr. Green, asking him if it was really true he objected to Jewish objects being sold in his stores.
Steve Green didn’t reply, but someone named Joel Jackson of customer service did. No, Hobby Lobby doesn’t carry Jewish items, he explained, but my “request has been shared” with his product buyer: they also, he added, appreciate my business.
“What business?” I huffed, as I pressed delete on his e-mail.
As soon as I did, though, I had to laugh at the irony. Here I was, irate that Hobby Lobby won’t sell me Hanukkah supplies – when Hanukkah itself is all about having the strength to be separate, to resist the pull of being just like everyone else.
Perhaps Hobby Lobby’s refusal to stock Hanukkah supplies outraged me so much because in so many other areas in the United States and other countries today, it can feel effortless to be Jewish. In the US, where we don’t have to risk our lives to worship freely, where Jews are accepted as another ethnic group out of many, encountering a chain store that refuses to cater to Jews comes as a rude shock: one of the few reminders we have that in some senses, we still might be separate.
The most prominent symbol of Hanukkah is the menorah: the eight-branched candelabra that we light each night of the holiday.
It recalls the miracle of the oil, when a small band of Jewish fighters – after defeating the mighty Syrian-Greek army – rededicated the holy Temple in Jerusalem. Finding nearly everything defiled, they were able to locate one remaining jar of oil, which they used to kindle the Temple’s menorah: instead of burning for only one day, it lasted for eight days.
It’s customary to light our menorahs in a window, to publicize this miracle. And their miracle is ours too. When we light the Hanukkah lights, the blessing we say is in the present tense: we thank God for performing miracles of our ancestors, and equally today.
On October 4, 2013, the president of Hobby Lobby issued a public apology to Jewish customers who were offended, and said some stores might stock Jewish items in future. He also called the New Jersey blogger who first brought attention to the situation to defuse tensions.
All this is great news for countless Jewish crafters, who soon might enjoy the chain’s help in making their Hanukkahs even more special. But perhaps this season – when our thoughts begin to turn to planning our Hanukkah celebrations, Hobby Lobby’s done us a favor.
They’ve made us remember for a moment that we as Jews are sometimes separate, not only in the past, but even today – even in the United States, too. That Hanukkah’s not just another winter-themed holiday, but a time to remember what it means to be special, to be separate.
(95) Emily Golden, December 13, 2019 1:27 PM
Boycott
I was disappointed that your article suggested Jewish crafters could now shop at Hobby Lobby . Given the anti Jewish store policies would you consider that a more appropriate response might be to encourage Jewish crafters to boycott Hobby Lobby ?
(94) Carl, October 12, 2017 1:51 PM
Hanukkah is not Christmas
In our zeal to assimilate and appease our spoiled and entitled kids, we forget the true meaning of our holiday and what kind of gifts we are supposed to give. Hanukkah is also not a major holiday as is Christmas of the Gentiles. We already have some of our more liberal reform Jews having trees in their homes and calling them Hanukkah Bushes. To be (a Jew) or not to be (a Jew) that is the question.
(93) Anonymous, February 26, 2017 5:03 PM
Hardly any Lion Brand Crafts!
For long a time Hobby Lobby did not carry Lion Brand yarn which is owned by the Blumenthal family. Now I know why! I love Lion Brand yarn for my knitting and crocheting.
(92) Gloria Scott, December 20, 2016 6:17 AM
I went into the Hobby Lobby near me and did not find any Hanukkah decorations. Then on another visit I mentioned it to a cashier and she said she had seen Hanukkah decorations on an end cap but when she looked a couple days later they were gone and New Years decorations were there
(91) Anonymous, April 27, 2015 3:37 AM
"Separate".... like "separate and equal", right?
(90) Joseph Apicella, August 9, 2014 3:24 PM
You call yourself a businessman
The worst put down from my beloved father was, "You call yourself a businessman". When I had to buy a white communion suit I went to the Jewish clothing store. My friend a Jewish jeweler told me that many of the salesman at the Vatican were Jewish. In business there are only customers and non-customers.
(89) Eclipse, July 7, 2014 5:19 AM
Stop forcing "separateness"
Maybe some of us don't want to be "separate." We are all human beings living on one planet. Sectarianism is antiquated and a cause of much suffering in this world. I say bring on the winter holiday. We need to appreciate our planet and its cycles and realize we are part of the Earth, not separate from it.
(88) Adam H, December 8, 2013 6:21 PM
Tolerance & Inclusion Go Far
As painful as it can be when any majority is ignorant or insensitive to a given minority, the best antidote may be a carrot and not a stick, so tolerance and inclusion are forever important.
(87) Eema, December 8, 2013 5:46 PM
Sabbath observers
Although I do not buy much crafts stuff, I have tried to shop at Hobby Lobby in the past because I appreciate their closing on Sunday to give their employees a sabbath, even if it is not my sabbath.
(86) Anonymous, December 4, 2013 3:05 AM
True let us boycott. They don't even act like it is holiday.
I visited their store this week for the first time and also saw it blatantly does not carry one item that I could use for Chanukah. I found Thanksgiving items even though it passed. I am a craft person and true as it is about not needing Jewish decor, still found this odd. I just read this and think it is very bigoted. I loved store but oddly found this true. Even the other craft stores in my Buffalo area carried many items. Strange. Think I will boycott it in future and spread the word.
(85) Denise Hoppess, October 30, 2013 1:23 AM
No Jewish Crafts vs. Jewish Christmas Tree
I do not know whether to be more surprised or confused by Hobby Lobby's refusal to carry Jewish themed crafts, or by the Dallas, TX area's Christmas Store with it's Jewish themed Christmas tree. I am not Jewish, but I am extremely confused. One is the question of commerce and discrimination, the other is the issue of just not getting it. Unless you want a Christmas tree with a Star of David, Menorah and Torah. It seems like both are at far ends of the spectrum. Though I will not be shopping at Hobby Lobby any time soon.
(84) Shimona, October 24, 2013 10:38 AM
Hanukkah "decorations"
So this shop doesn't sell "Hanukkah decorations"?!
Since when do Jews put up "Hanukkah decorations"?
Since we started copying the goyim and their Christmas decorations, no doubt.
tom42, December 1, 2013 5:55 PM
Hannukah ans christmas
How different would our Hannukah celebrations be if it were 6 months away from Christmas?
Silky, December 1, 2013 8:48 PM
Decorations have a place in American Jewry
Shimona, while you and I might not want or see the need to put up Chanukah decorations, to some people who are not Observant this is a way to show the world they are Jewish.
(83) rosenberg, October 18, 2013 11:31 AM
gift to rabbi
Subject: RABBI OBTAINS $125 gift cards for sisterhood and men's club from Hobby lobby
The people at HOBBY LOBBY were so grateful for Rabbi Dr. Bernhard Rosenberg's help spending time at their Marlboro store and advising them, that they donated $125 worth of gift cards that he will give tohis synagogue sisterhood and men's club to use as raffle prizes. There are those who believe that the swastika in front of the RABBI DR. BERNHARD ROSENBERG'S home is related to his being outspoken saying Hobby lobby was not anti-Semitic. Rabbi Rosenberg has called for the dismissal of an alleged employee who said ' WE DO NOT SERVE YOUR KIND OF PEOPLE.' He spent much time working with the home office of Hobby Lobby convincing them to carry Channukah and Passover items.
(82) Nathan, October 13, 2013 3:18 AM
Its a free country
It is Hobby Lobby's business to decide if they want to sell Jewish products and it is the consumers choice to shop there or not. This is a free country and this is a business. It is their free choice to carry what they want in their stores. I know I wouldnt want anyone forcing me to carry Xmas products or anything else I dont want to carry in my business. I dont get all this outrage.
jelun, November 27, 2013 6:44 PM
information
It would seem that publicity is necessary in order for people to decide whether to give this company business despite this debacle and their trying to interfere in employee's reproductive lives, isn't it?
(81) Marti, October 11, 2013 7:51 PM
Mr. Green doesn't cater to Jewish people yet he'll spend (probably a very large) sum of money to buy the oldest Jewish prayer book for a "non-sectarian museum" he plans to build in Washington DC? Honor the bible, but reject its origins and the people who brought it into existence, and who cherished and protected it for thousands of years? I think the man may be more than a little confused, but I also think this is a marvelous wakeup call to consumers (Jewish or otherwise) to be very cognizant of where their $$ are spent and what they may be funding in the future.
(80) Mary, October 10, 2013 11:26 PM
Bad for business
Being rude to customers potential customers and not carrying items tthat people want is bad for business. Hobby Lobby is a craft not a religious store.
(79) Bev, October 10, 2013 9:01 PM
Frankly, what does crafts have to do with Hanukah?
Mati, October 21, 2013 6:42 PM
Obviously the same as Christmas and Christianity
The store does indeed carry things for these two. And Bev is probably correct in her question if I interpret it the way I think she does. The very holiday of Hanukah is about NOT mixing the ways of paganism with the ways of G-d. Yet for some reason, many Jews call it "the Jewish Christmas" and demand its observance to be similar to Christmas. I have never understood how someone can make it similar to the Christian holiday when the very essence of the holiday is exactly opposite.
(78) Rebecca Solomon, October 10, 2013 3:50 PM
don't see my comment
Expecting Hobby Lobby to carry Hanukkah decorations would be like expecting The Source For Everything Jewish to carry Christmas decorations. However, having said that, I am glad they decided to carry the Hanukkah stuff. It is a business, and should cater to everyone. Some places, like where we live, don't have many Jews, and thus there is not a big demand for things like that. So it could be that in that case, they would choose not to carry them. But I am sure they are not anti-semitic.
Anonymous, October 11, 2013 4:45 AM
Name of Store
The name of the chain is "Hobby Lobby" - not "Christian Hobby Lobby."
Reba, October 12, 2013 10:02 PM
truth
I am not sticking up for Hobby Lobby, but in Texas where I live, there are so few Jews that there is no reason to go to a store like that for Hanukkah items. Perhaps Walmart or Target would be a better choice than a craft store.
(77) David, October 10, 2013 2:45 PM
Not a good idea to shop there anyway
Given the fact that Hobby Lobby actively utizilizes a portion of its profits toward Christian proselytization related causes (stated on its site on their "our Company" page), it's a good thing that we DON'T purchase Hanukkah products from them. At least my wife and I don't intend on accidentally spreading the Christian Gospel through any purchases of ours .. and why we will not shop there.
Patricia, October 10, 2013 10:28 PM
Evangelical Christians are the BEST friend Israel has.
Hypocrite. How would you like it if Christians chose not to purchase from Jewish owned companies? That would be antisematic ... hypocrites.
David, October 11, 2013 7:46 PM
You missed the point Patricia...
Christians can stop shopping at Jewish owned stores anytime they want to, Patricia, but it would be because they don't like the products or the prices, which is fine. Jewish stores aren't using their profits to convert Christians to Judaism like Hobby Lobby is (supporting organizations that spread the Christian Gospel). Sorry dear, but you can not equate the two. Also, playing the "support Israel card" is no excuse when Hobby Lobby is simultaneously supporting evangelizing as well.
Dvirah, November 19, 2013 5:30 PM
However
It is true that evangelical Christians support Israel. But they do so because they believe this will further their own interests. The bottom line is still to convert all Jews to Christianity, not to accept Jews as Jews. Just read their literature - it's all there.
(76) Anonymous, October 10, 2013 3:45 AM
Foolish
I don't think this whole brouhaha does us any good, rather it causes more dislike for us. Would you like it if a gentile demanded of a Judaica store that it sell Christmas items? It is a free country ( I think) and people can sell whatever they want. There are plenty of places to buy Chanuka stuff, why go to Hobby Lobby and stir up a hornet's nest. Stupid.
Susan, October 10, 2013 3:37 PM
False Analogy, Ghetto Mentality
I am sad that you have missed the point of the entire situation. Hobby Lobby is a CRAFT store, NOT a religious store, no matter how religious the owner is. It was also not just the absence of items, it was the rudeness of the clerk that the original complainant met - "We don't cater to you people" - that was the real problem. Your response reminds me of the 2 men in front of the firing squad, with one defiant & the other telling him shut up, so he wouldn't "make trouble." In a free country, pointing out that people hate us is not the "hornet's nest." Or certainly shouldn't be.
(75) Embic, October 10, 2013 12:50 AM
Ridiculous and shameful that this is even a story
I can't believe this is news. A non-Jewish acquaintance made me aware of this, and I have to say that this is embarrassing. If we need Chanukah supplies, we go to a Judaica store or the kosher supermarket. Or we can also shop online. As Jews, are we going to now expect that all restaurants serve kosher food? Of course not! It is sad that someone decided to make this an issue, because it means that they do not know where the rest of the Jews get their Chanukah supplies; again, at the Judaica store, or at a kosher supermarket. There are so many other important issues, and someone had to choose this one????
Yitzchak, October 10, 2013 8:10 PM
Embic is right
I have to agree with Embic: this is a ridiculous issue. The store does not stock items for Islam, Bahai, or Buddhists either. They are a Christian owned business. The stores are closed on Sunday. That is not discriminating to Jews, they are following their own face. Plenty of other places to get Chanukah items
(74) Michael, October 10, 2013 12:12 AM
Appreciation
I do not know Mr. Green personally, but it would be my guess that in this large of an organization, this is something that was simply not on his radar. I am sure that he does not personally do the ordering of stock. Hopefully, I would assume, he does appreciate this being brought to his attention and having the opportunity to address it. I am a gentile believer in Messiah and know that I myself very much appreciate the heritage I have been grafted into, and wish that I had easier access to such items for purchase. I am a big fan of matzoh...
(73) Howard, October 9, 2013 11:51 PM
So I went to Hobby Lobby
I live in the Deep South, in a town with a tiny Jewish community. After reading this article, I decided to pay my local Hobby Lobby a visit. Ironically, the girl I spoke to was a young blonde named Christine. When I asked for Hanukkah decorations, she was nothing but kind, respectful and seemed genuinely interested in helping me out. She suggested crafts and wintery Hanukkah decor in blue, white and silver, and added that I probably could order menorahs and candles online. But I already have a Hanukkiyah. It was bought to me by my neighbor, a Southern Evangelical with red hair.
(72) Karen, October 9, 2013 10:30 PM
Hobby Lobby- Hanukkah
I am a Christian, married to a Jew. If it were not for the fact that I am now married to a Jew, I too would not be that 'aware' of Jewish culture, customs, religion, etc. The owner of Hobby Lobby is a devout Christian. He is not 'anti-Semitic' as some want to believe. It's just that Judaism is not on his radar. That is quite common for us to just not be that aware of other religious customs and cultures. Please don't assume that we don't respect your religion, or we are somehow marginalizing you. My husband and I are now seeing and appreciating the similarities and differences of our two faiths. A few years ago I was "clueless". We all just need to be educated, not called anti-Semitic because we are 'not aware'.
(71) Barbara Rubin, October 9, 2013 6:28 PM
Inaccurate conclusions about the meaning of this story, in USA and otherwise
I'd like to rectify some of the misleading statements you may have inadvertently included here. First, Jews experience a great deal of anti0semitism in this country, even in highly populated areas like NYC and L.A. or San Francisco. There are daily incidents of vandalism in cemetaries and synagogues; the rising numbers of synagogues are again falling as reform and conservative shuls find themselves 'excessed' in terms of fiscal viability. I myself, a NYC Jew, have been urged to convert along with being sent an emailed swastika a few years ago. These pressures not only exist here but also in Israel, where I've spent the past six months learning about the modern versions of ancient anti-Semitism (which includes objections to the Arab world also among the Semitic nations).
The holiday of Hannukah does not celebrate 'separatism' but the return to our homeland after being violently ejected by foreign powers. It celebrates 'return' much as Jews try to educate all Jewish people in terms of recognizing our national identity amidst the great variety of ways in how it is expressed. We are losing the battle to maintain all of those expressive modes and must urge all businesses to maintain an open door to all customers including Jews with our own individualized shopping lists in every season of the year.
(70) Gary Katz, October 9, 2013 6:26 PM
Their new name?
Maybe Hobby Lobby should change its name to "Hebrew, Not You!"
(69) Dana, October 9, 2013 6:21 PM
What about Hobby Lobby's right to be unique, special, separate?
Perhaps For Hobby Lobby they were just trying to enjoy their own specialness and separateness. I don't think they are necessarily anti-Semetic. I wouldn't declare them so without more evidence than what has been provided by the blogger and as for the call mentioned by the author of this article, maybe the clerk just didn't know much and didn't know much about customer service. That's not uncommon now adays:) I think this is blown all out of proportion myself. I mean in the end, they shared the separateness and specialness of Hanukkah after it was brought to there attention it was desired.
(68) Anonymous, October 9, 2013 5:17 PM
no to HL
Simcha...get a life! There aren't that many days from Succoth to
Chanukah when you are planning ahead! Just boycott HL, there are other stores where craft stuff is available!
Simcha, October 10, 2013 2:59 PM
Get HaShem! That's what life really is
I don't recall ever going into a Hobby Lobby. Just not my thing, but I do admire their giving their workers their Shabbos off (Clue: most Americans are Christians). On Succos I was in shul, not buying decorations for a minor holiday two months away.
My life is fine. A life with HaShem is rich and rewarding. As for the tone of your post, maybe you should give up the hostility and go to shul yourself instead of "boycotting" and posting snarky comments. Have a good life.
(67) Anonymous, October 9, 2013 5:16 PM
Hi everyone!!! i just called corporate Hobby Lobby..... to find out if this is true!!! ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!! Corporate said that the Hanukkah items did not sell very well....she also said since this report came out people have been asking for Jewish items . Hobby Lobby is planing to get ALL Jewish Items in......& I can here your words right now.... Hobby Lobby will tell you what ever you want to here....there is soooo much stuff happening now.....lets get real...& THINK FOR YOUR SELF.....CHEW THE CHICKEN & SPIT OUT THE BONES!!!!! if we listen to everything...like....don't shop here & don't shop there.... then why don't we just live on a farm in the middle of no-where & grow our own fruit & veggies...make out own closes...etc. etc..... people come on.... THINK FOR YOUR SELF......... Have a BEAUTIFUL day!!! PS.....; I LOVE GODS CHOSEN PEOPLE & I PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM!!!!!!
(66) David Perton, October 9, 2013 4:09 PM
Hobby Lobby/Home Depot
The stranger thing is the situation at The Home Depot. This maga chain was founded by Stanley Marcus, A Jew. Yet You cannot find anything for Hanukah in any of their stores. They have a few items online, but not in their stores. I worked there for many years and was always frruteated this time of year. Oh yes, they have 1 item, a gift card.
(65) Donna, October 9, 2013 3:49 PM
We shouldn't attach each other
Why would Jews expect to find their items at a totally well known Christian store and then get angry and attack it for not finding them there? As a Christian, I would not go to a Jewish store looking for a cross or a nativity scene and I would not get angry because of them not carrying such things. I think the whole thing is crazy. Can't we just respect each other without this getting angry madness?
(64) Eileen Washer, October 9, 2013 3:02 PM
"Those that love the Torah are not easily offended"
I've found the people at Hobby Lobby to be very helpful and have even gone out of their way to get what I'm looking for should they not have it. I have been told that some items are not carried simply because there is not a big demand. I can understand that because that has been the case in other stores. I think of the psalm that says "Those that love the Torah are not easily offended."
(63) Shoshana - Jerusalem, October 9, 2013 2:55 PM
Prayer book
Maybe someone with a lot of money could figure out a way to rescue that 1,200 year old Jewish prayer book?
(62) Alma, October 9, 2013 2:54 PM
go Israeli products!
Why not buy Israeli products instead and support our people there? I know it's nice to go in the store and do shopping, after all, I like to go to bed, bath, and beyond, but It's disappointing to find all the Hanukkah items almost hidden from public view, and at the same time, it reminds me we are a separate, people, just like this article states it, we don't have to be like everyone else.
(61) Anonymous, October 9, 2013 2:04 PM
We object to this report!
Hi,
I am the owner of Hygloss Products, Inc., a craft supplies and teacher supplies company in Wallington, NJ.
One look at me (kippah/yarmulke, beard) and my name (Moshe) will tell you that I am an Orthodox Jew.
My company has been meeting the owner and buyers of Hobby Lobby for over 20 years, at trade shows and at their headquarters. Over the years, we have sold many of our items to Hobby Lobby.
Every time my Jewish employees or I have met with them, we have been treated with the utmost respect and courtesy. Not once was there any hint of unfairness or anti-Semitism.
We object wholeheartedly to the story that has been circulating on blogs regarding Hobby Lobby’s merchandise stocking strategy.
Sincerely yours,
Moshe Neurath
Hygloss Products, Inc.
45 Hathaway Street
Wallington, NJ 07057
T 973-458-1700 x106
F 973-458-1745
moshe@hyglossproducts.com
www.hygloss.com
(60) Barbara Crim, October 9, 2013 1:39 PM
Hobby Lobby will now carry Chanuka products
It looks as if Hobby Lobby is now going to carry products for Chanuka. I hope this is true. I would think twice about shopping there again, if they appeared to be so antisemetic. (I am a Christian who supports Israel and the Jewish people.)
joan, October 10, 2013 4:48 AM
Thanks for ur support. We have several very good Christian friends who are very big supporters of Israel. Joan Baumco
(59) Rachel, October 9, 2013 1:28 PM
Hanukkah
Target sells Hanukkah items ...
(58) Anonymous, October 9, 2013 6:27 AM
Shul Judaica shops carry holiday items
No need to give Hobby Lobby or any commercial establishment your hard-earned cash. Shop at your local synagogue gift shops and support their school and educational programs by doing so.
Anonymous, October 9, 2013 12:01 PM
Excellent idea!
Yes, shop at your local synagogue gift shop. Also, in this country, we are free to be "fundamentalist" Christians, or Orthodox Jews, or atheists, etc. So if Steve Green doesn't want to stock Chanuka items in his stores, we should be OK with that. Simply shop elsewhere!
Yossie, October 9, 2013 3:57 PM
Some can't afford it
It would be wonderful to support Jewish stores and synagogues, but almost invariably, they are far more expensive than Target or any other general store. Especially, if it is run by the local synagogue, since they do it for fundraising purposes. Fund raising is very necessary and admirable, but some people can't afford the extra premium they have to pay for it. Think about that the next time you price your items.
(57) Simcha, October 9, 2013 4:57 AM
It's Not HL's Actions That Are Questionable
Was the original customer looking for Hanukah decorations or were they just upset that HL didn't have any? Did Ms. Miller have any intention of buying from HL when she called the store? The Gemorah says you can't waste a shopkeeper's time if you have no intention of buying. And how about putting that clerk on the spot when, given the timing of the call and the nature of the questions, it was obvious Ms. Miller had no intention of buying? The Torah tells me that the quest to be an investigative journalist does not allow you to treat a clerk like that. And was Ms. Miller really surprised that the CEO did not drop everything and respond to someone who, as the existence of this article attests to, was trying to make trouble for his company? If Ms. Miller had done a little research she would have found that some stores have in fact carried Hanukah stuff.
When I lived in Central NJ some of the supermarkets had kosher meat counters. Here in Arizona, not so much. But then again, there a far fewer Jews here. I'd bet that if there was a demand, they would supply. And this story broke around Sukkos time, who's thinking of Hanukah decorations?
The Second Temple was destroyed for senseless hatred. Judging by the comments to the article the, cause of rebuilding the Temple has not been helped.
(56) Gary, October 9, 2013 2:32 AM
really - should stores in Israel be forced to carry christmas goodies?
We live in a predominately christian country. Be respecful and appreciative. Look how many kosher products are available today? Hobby Lobby should be supported because it's owner is willing to stand up for Torah values - i.e., some level of anti-abortion. That Aish would feature this is dissapointing. Answer to author: make aliyah and in the mean time thank the christians who are willing to speak up for values our Rabbaim are silent on..
(55) Lisa, October 8, 2013 11:54 PM
Oy, the complaining! Know what it's like to own a biz????
Many good points already touched on here....so I will add that all this complaining is SO unbecoming! Will a biz prosper if it (BUYS) stocks merchandise that there are not enough buyers for? SO no you and another person have successfully bullied them into taking on overhead that they may not profit from. This tactic reminds me of what two other groups that are taking over our country are doing..... atheists, and Islamists.
Barbara Crim, October 9, 2013 1:34 PM
Hobby Lobby and Chanuka products
I have been a strong supporter of Hobby Lobby, but as a Christian, an even stronger supporter of Israel and the Jewish people, I am deeply disappointed in Hobby Lobby. Believe me, they aren't going to lose anything in overhead by carrying some Chanuka supplies. Once Jewish people know they can get them at HB, they will shop there, and it should only increase Hobby Lobby's revenue, because they will buy other items, as well. I now question the depth of Mr. Green's Christianity, if he is adamant about refusing to carry products for Chanuka. I will think long and hard before supporting Hobby Lobby again. What a disappointment for me.
Anonymous, October 10, 2013 10:39 PM
Ridiculous
Do you REQUIRE stores to carry MUSLIM & HINDU decorations too?
Why can't a store owner sell what he wants to? If you want a store that sells ALL religious symbolism then START ONE. Stop whining that other companies that are trying to stay afloat in this economy (statistically most Jewish folks vote Democratic and OWN this economy), sell what they know will sell best in their area.
EVERYONE who is not Jewish, is not an anti-semite. Take off the blinders see the love that REAL CHRISTIANS have for the Jewish people.
Grace and Peace,
Patricia K
Orange county California
(54) Kerry, October 8, 2013 11:06 PM
I'm more appalled
Who cares if a non-Jewish store sells Jewish-themed items? I'm more appalled that a Jewish website spells the name of our holiday as the goyim do: Hanukkah. They can't pronounce the eighth letter of the Hebrew alphabet, so they replaced it with the fifth letter. The word, most accurately spelled in English, is Chanukah. Do you spell one of our other holidays "Pesah" or "Pesach"? I could go on and on with many other examples, but, to me, your action is more appalling than that of some goy.
(53) peggy, October 8, 2013 10:51 PM
2 yrs ago after going to Israel, I brought many different scrapebooking items that were of Jewish nature, in Kansas.
(52) ROSENBERG, October 8, 2013 10:46 PM
hobby lobby
•I spent an hour at the Marlboro store trying to help them and spoke to corporate. I do not believe they are anti-Semitic and believe certain people are trying to destroy their reputation. I have suggested sources to obtain channukah items and how to fight the bad press. RABBI DR. BERNHARD ROSENBERG
(51) Moriah, October 8, 2013 10:34 PM
Channukah 'decorations'
What would G-d have to say about this, I wonder.
(50) Yocheved, October 8, 2013 10:31 PM
Entenmann's
This reminds me of a time years ago, when I called Entenmanns and asked them if they would sell Jelly doughnuts around the time of Channukah. I remember they used to make jelly doughnuts and i thought it would be thoughtful of them to have something special for the Jewish holiday as they usually have special cakes for Christmas, Halloween, and Thanksgiving, among others. I was given a pretty resolute no to my request and I did not pursue it. At the time I thought it was a significant refusal.
(49) Tseruyah, October 8, 2013 9:54 PM
Be Careful What We Ask For
Asking hobby Lobby to carry Jewish-themed craft items and decor is just opening the door for messianic xtian marketing. You can already find jewelry and car ornaments with a combination of the Magen David and a xtian ichthus (fish) in xtian shops. we don't want this xtian chain store owner to start stocking such things and make it any easier for the messianics to be considered mainstream Jews via their economic representation. Leave Hobby Lobby to make their profits off their beloved xtian customers and shop locally and shop Jewish!
(48) Anonymous, October 8, 2013 9:33 PM
So What?
I dont get why you are making such a fuss over Chanukah merchandise. You can not expect for people to stock items of every religion at any given time day or night. There are some minority religions that that don't have their items stocks in most stores at all. This is just one chain and there are definitely more chains that would sell Jewish-items. Besides it is a Christian business as not obliged to provide Hanukah and Jewish themed decorations. It is not a question of anti-semitism or rasiscm but will they get business or not. I see this all as a big exaggeration and just destroying another business.
(47) Stan Harder, October 8, 2013 9:07 PM
Hobby Lobby
I live in Wichita Kansas. We have a very small Jewish community here -- nevertheless there are Hanukkah items for sale at Target, a number of drug stores and other stores, and our local Dillions grocery stores have nice selections of both kosher foods and Jewish holiday cards. Hobby Lobby -- nothing -- not even a little sticker. I complained about this to a clerk who was unhelpful, so I complained on the Hobby Lobby facebook page -- nothing. I am very glad this is getting national attention -- they deserve it.
(46) Norm, October 8, 2013 8:23 PM
Our Christian Bookstore Sells Jewish Items
in my city, Mardel, a Christian bookstore chain out of OK sells yamalka's, seder plates, menorah's, mezuzah's, dradels. and prayer shawls. So maybe you went to the wrong chain store? As for Claire's logic, guilt by association is a good way to spread intolerance not understanding. I am a Christian but I love Jewish folks and Jewish traditions. We probably aren't going to agree on who's our Messiah but at least our ethics and worship of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are core beliefs upon which together we can build a civil society.
(45) Eliyahu, October 8, 2013 8:09 PM
Hobby Lobby Jewish Items
I purchase my Hanukah items from my local shul. This is America, if Green does not want to carry Yudean items, he is not obligated. Don't pressure him and embarrass him. It is against Torah to embarrass someone in public. Now Green has to save face by stocking items that he has not stocked. Those who accuse him, did the worst sin. I disagree with what America did in desegregation. I read that a African American man built his own golf course because he was not allow in the local all-white golf course. Why were the blacks challenging the Jim Crow laws on sit ins? Blacks had better cooks, better carpenters and were capable of building there own cafés and establishments. If Jews pool their resources they could build a chain of hobby stores more magnificent than Hobby Lobby. But, we would rather embarrass Green who is providing jobs and services. I have been to many cities with large Jewish populations and found no Kosher restaurants or supermarkets. I don't believe all the Jews in those cities are vegetarians. I am told they are the largest consumers of shell fish and treif. So do we have to right to judge Mr. Green? This is not the Spirit of Zionism. This is anti-Judaism.
rachel, October 14, 2013 1:04 AM
you are probably not a us citizen
And if you are and still disapprove of desegregation, there is only one word for you--racist. Choosing to associate with your own people and culture is very different from being forbidden to associate with others.
(44) Anonymous, October 8, 2013 8:06 PM
Michael's
Michael's, a large crafts chain store sells plenty of Jewish themed crafts and art projects. their employees have always been, in my experience helpful and friendly. we had a birthday party there too - kipah's and all.
(43) Ted, October 8, 2013 8:03 PM
I supplied this company
From 1985 to 1997 I owned a company that was a supplier to this chain as it grew out of Oklahoma City. There was never any hint of discrimination against any of the Jewish owned companies that supplied them, as I was friends with many of them. I respected their choice of religion, as I choose to be respected for mine. Whether someone who is related to the owner has an issue, cannot be cast upon the entire company. I personally worked with a member of the Green family, and found him to be a haimish guy, and a real gentleman.
(42) Nadine G. Mendelsohn-Ziskind, October 8, 2013 7:20 PM
Hanukah and Hobby Lobby
in Mobile, Al where it is very hard to find anything Jewish in the stores. I that by shopping online a lot or asking my kids to send me hings from the larger Jewishly populated cities (Miami, Cleveland) I have shopped at Hobby Lobby w moved here, however, I stopped because of their overt Christianity and denial of a place for Jews in the history of Western Civilization. Every Christian holiday they take out full page ads in the local press touting the superiority of their beliefs. Their stand on Women's health issues has further alienated me from shopping there. Which is surprising since the majority of their store personnel are female. I chose to shop at Michae'ls, which even in this small Jewish community does carry some Hanukah items.
(41) Haley, October 8, 2013 7:09 PM
Would we want to shop at a store that appears to have been shamed into selling some Hannukah decorations at SO M E of their stores? Which stores rank?
(40) Randy Johnson, October 8, 2013 6:50 PM
Christian items in a Jewish store.
If I should go into a Jewish store, will I see Christian religious things there? I think not. Really, It is not anti-anything to not carry every religious item from very religion in the world. Anti this or that is sooooooo wrong. You are taking religious specialization and making it a race thing. Perhaps you are preposterously prejudice towards goyim. Let us put aside such trite things and live after the example given us in our individual writings.
shekhinah, October 8, 2013 8:04 PM
Christains using my God!
Look Randy, it is all good that you gave such a strong opinion, but when the clerk used the term "you people ",it became a problem. Plus they often carry Kwanza items. So what is the real story? Personally the very fact your reply is based in seoeration of my God from "your God ",makes me ill. If you truely feel as you have stated, get your own God! My kids deserve to make crafts and be treated like everyone else so do I. I will no longer ride on the back of the bus and give my seat(God), up to you.
Rebecca Hehn, October 8, 2013 8:19 PM
Jewish-owned dept stores sell Christmas stuff
Perhaps you are unaware that most of our major Dept. Stores are Jewish-owned, and that is where you will find your most beautiful Christmas and Easter decorations, besides the fact that the stores are decorated. As for prejudice, I think it was the Christian who wouldn't carry Jewish decorations, right? If there ever were to be any basis for wariness, I don't recall any Jewish-run Inquisition, do you? Just Saying. Enjoy your Prince of (what?) Peace.
bmommyx2, October 8, 2013 8:43 PM
it's a crafts store
They are not a "Christian" store, they are a craft store with a Christian owner.
Anonymous, October 8, 2013 8:47 PM
We should lead by example
Omayn!!
Anonymous, October 9, 2013 1:53 AM
Agreed
It is neighborly and considerate for storekeepers to accommodate the needs of diverse groups in an area, especially if politely requested to do so, but it surely cannot and should not be required of them. If I am displeased by the store's policy, I won't shop there. Pressuring the owner to meet your needs is rude, selfish, and generally unfair. I am an observant Jew, and don't expect to be catered to or even welcomed everywhere. As long as I am neither mistreated nor deprived of a basic right, I won't carp. Depriving a Christian of his right to decide the kind of business he wants to own and run, now that's discrimination. Mind, I don't say I'd feel comfortable in a place that clearly prefers to exclude me and 'my kind', but that's just tough noogies, as we used to say. Please Hashem, when Moshiach comes, we will be transported to the ultimate megastore - it will have all Jewish product all year round. Until then grow the heck up, fellas.
Bunny Shuch, October 9, 2013 2:27 AM
Hobby Lobby is not a "Christian" store
Hobby Lobby is not a "Christian" store. It is a hobby store that's owned by a Christian. Many Jewish store owners carry Christian holiday supplies. You just won't find these supplies in a "religious" Jewish store, such as a synagogue gift shop, nor would I expect a "religious" Christian store to carry Jewish holiday supplies. A store that carries craft items and party supplies is not religiously oriented and should consider carrying the supplies that that their customers request, which it seems Hobby Lobby is now doing. As for anti-Jewish feeling, certainly the words "We don't cater to you people" was a hostile remark. The clerk could have said, "We don't carry those items currently, but I can look into it if there's enough demand" or just a simple "We don't happen to have those in stock." I don't look for anti-Semitism in every nook and cranny, but in this case, feel the New Jersey blogger was justified in his criticism of Hobby Lobby.
Alesandra Gabriel, October 9, 2013 5:55 AM
Non Specialty Stores.
Jews are a race of people, to be sure, but they are also a culture. I wouldn't expect to find "Jewish" stuff in a "Christian" store. You wouldn't expect to find furniture in a grocery store either. We shouldn't get all this out of context. A general store stocking "Holiday" stuff is trying to turn a profit. If Jewish things and Christian things are both sold in the same store....how is that a bad thing?
(39) Anonymous, October 8, 2013 6:44 PM
So what?
Growing up in a small town in the south I remember well that no store carried anything related to Judaism or Jewish holidays. So what? I knew that I was different and that was ok. I am 60 and most stores now carry these things. More people are informed these days about Judaism and Jewish holidays. So what? Stores are in the business to make money. Do we really need to commercialize our holidays? I would have to travel to buy anything Jewish. Now all you have to do is go online. If a store doesn't want to carry Jewish products, buy them elsewhere.
(38) Lewis Lokitz, October 8, 2013 6:42 PM
Kohls and holiday decoration
In a similar situation I emailed Kohls corporate to enquire why their Apex, NC store did not carry Chanukah decorations. I rec'd the following...Subject
Your Kohl's Inquiry
Discussion Thread
Response Via Email (Cheri W.) 10/03/2013 08:20 AM
Dear Lewis Lokitz,
Thank you for your feedback regarding merchandise in our stores. I appreciate this opportunity to review your comments.
We appreciate your suggestion, but our merchandise selection is usually stocked based on location and demand. I have forwarded your comments to our Store Planning Department. We are continually looking for ways to best meet the needs of all customers and, in turn, improve customer convenience. Your feedback is very much appreciated, and will be taken under careful consideration for any future changes to our merchandise selection.
We appreciate the time you took to contact us and look forward to serving you again.
Sincerely,
Cheri W.
We have lived in Cary NC for 4 years and each year I have visited customer service to enquire about the decorations.
patricia, October 8, 2013 7:35 PM
Do you REQUIRE stores to carry MUSLIM & HINDU decorations too?
Why can't a store owner sell what he wants to? If you want a store that sells ALL religious symbolism then START ONE. Stop whining that other companies that are trying to stay afloat in this economy (statistically most Jewish folks vote Democratic and OWN this economy), sell what they know will sell best in their area.
EVERYONE who is not Jewish, is not an anti-semite. Take off the blinders see the love that REAL CHRISTIANS have for the Jewish people.
Grace and Peace,
Patricia K
Orange county California
Bev, October 10, 2013 8:13 PM
The owner of Kohl's is Jewish.
(37) Claire, October 8, 2013 6:41 PM
Much More to the Story
David Green is the owner of Hobby Lobby, and also has a private collection of religious antiquities, including the recently discovered oldest Jewish prayer book in existence. Steven Green is the son and President, and his brother is Mart Green, a notorious hater of Israel who has donated millions to BDS and Christian Palestinianism, and bankrolled the subtly deceitful, "Little Town of Bethlehem." A store can choose to sell what it wants; I have no problem with that. The issue is the motivation behind the decision. If you check on the New Jersey blogger's comments section, you will see the antisemites come out of the woodworks. Too bad for the Greens, and Jewish people are not the only ones boycotting Hobby Lobby.
I have a question for the Greens that nobody asked, and will probably not be answered: Do any Jewish people work for Hobby Lobby? Are there any employed at corporate headquarters, or is also part of their Christian values? I would assume if Hobby Lobby had a court Jew, they would have put him on the line to the blogger and allowed him to be a spokesman on national television, to dispute the accusation of antisemitism.
(36) Eliyahu, October 8, 2013 6:38 PM
Support our own businesses
Unless someone lives in an area with no Jewish-owned stores (as I do, unfortunately), why would one want to buy from a non-Jew. We can't expect our own people to prosper unless we're willing to support them. It may cost a little more, since small stores don't buy in volume large enough to get lower wholesale prices, but there's a lot more to life than just saving money.
Anonymous, October 8, 2013 7:38 PM
THIS IS THE 21ST CENTURY - mail order
I love being able to shop ALL OVER THE WORLD; Especially, directly from Israel and I am not a Jew. There is no reason that folks cannot get any kind of decoration, craft item, or related item anymore. Plus it comes right to your DOOR! Gotta love it.
Grace and peace :) Patricia K, Orange county, California
Wayne, October 9, 2013 1:29 AM
shoe on the other foot
What if Christians decided not to buy from Jews unless there wasn't a choice? Would you approve of that attitude? Your attitude is just as bad.
(35) Donna, October 8, 2013 6:37 PM
No room at the inn
After readying about Hobby Lobby's not selling Chanukah decorations or crafts, I am not surprised. My feeling is that by selling anything other than Christmas goods, it will invalidate all that they believe. Many non-Jews don't realize that there are others who don't believe what they do.
Ted, October 8, 2013 7:31 PM
Christians and Jews
Most Christians would consider it a Hypocritical to not be helpful to Jews. I don't know if Mr. Green is being just a good businessman or has changed the policy out of sincerity. But I am sure he is quite aware that there are others that don't believe as he does. Such as the reason for the lawsuit. Christians are being persecuted now similar to Jews every day. They are being killed and having their churches burned in the so called Arab spring countries that are becoming more hostile to anyone other than Muslims. That is why they are very upset with the current administration who is a false Christian and hostile to Isreal, a false friend of freedom etc. and wants to use the US military to help the Muslim world take over their countries with this hostile Muslim faction. All Christians need to wake up.
(34) Chaim Lauer, October 8, 2013 6:37 PM
Separate or fight
Is Chanukah rally about separating or is it about knowing when and how to fight for one's principles? [Ironically that would possibly support both Mr. Green and those working against his position.]
Additionally we should also consider in this discussion how we have made a minor holiday into a primary event.
If we are to learn anything from it, we should address the issues of engaging modernity and an almost pagan/ Greek obsession with physical things. It is not the menorah (probably imported from India or China), but the almost intangible flames of the candle that we should consider. Hiddur mitzvah is our modification of what the Greeks were doing and it is in the lights we kindle, not the chanukiah we use.
(33) Devorah, October 8, 2013 6:32 PM
Christianity is heresy for Jews
Christianity has been defined as heresy, idol-worship for Jews for two thousand years. An observant Jew would avoid participating in Christian rituals at the threat to his life and well being. We don't want to be forced to attend Christmas parties or design and produce Christian objects of worship. Why expecting them to cater our ritual objects? Why should we seek to buy judaica items handled by non Jews?
(32) Teresa, October 8, 2013 6:08 PM
Different Experience
I went to Hobby Lobby here in South Carolina last year inquiring about Hanukkah items. I was not treated rudely at all. The sales clerk apologized that there were none available , said she believed they did not carry them because they got so few requests for them , but she assured me that she would bring it to management's attention. Maybe it is not that Hobby Lobby is anti-Semitic , but that they have a few rude clerks in some states.
(31) Chris, October 8, 2013 5:58 PM
Repentance and Forgiving are Common Themes
One should remember, especially as we approach these festive seasons for both Jews and Christians, that both of our ways embrace repentance and forgiving those that have hurt us. Shalom and Peace to you all.
(30) marla a, October 8, 2013 5:56 PM
Kiss my Menorah!
I have commented on this issue before--but gained an additional insight that maybe we can 'look at" NO, I do NOT need HL to sell products for out holidays to VALIDATE ME/US----and believe me, I appreciate that we ARE a unique people....however, for our holiday that is so obviously known,popular and celebrated around the world, to be completely unacknowleded by a company that is as big as them, serves as a reminder,subtle or overt as it is, that we don't matter-This "rejection" is like a slap-in-the face---AGAIN------and is a reminder of the fact that anti-semitism is still alive and well in this country! Of course, we naturally "take it from it's source", so to speak--but it still stings a little-----but thank-HaShem we have so MUCH Natural honey to act as a balm! Atleast we know what they are-no matter HOW they try to spin it to "cover their latkes"....so to speak..........Oh well, one less store to give my business to. NU?????
(29) Rae, October 8, 2013 5:31 PM
OMG what a big hullah bullah
I am also a Catholic Christian. Do I think Mr. Green is wrong in his decision to not carry Jewish items for Hanukkah or any other Jewish Holiday? No I don't because in America, at least for the MOMENT, it is HIS right because it is HIS business. There are other places (il.e AISH) to purchase Jewish items. And it seems to me a Jew should be much more interested in promoting and advancing the business of a Jewish owned company rather than a Christian owned company. When I want Jewish items, I go to a reputable Jewish business (i.e. Aish or Shorashim) To raise such a ruckus over this minor issue shows the level of depravity and division some people will stoop to in order to achieve their own personal agendas. In other words, "it is all about ME and the way I want things to go for ME!" That is what is wrong with America today...each man does what is right in his own eyes no matter who he hurts/offends in the process and none of it is for the glory of G-D. There is no respect for our fellow human beings, i.e. the first Hobby Lobby clerk. Now a major chain may change its entire policy to accommodate a few troublemakers, and in the process cause attacks and demands to come from groups that neither the Jews nor the Christians would want Hobby Lobby to cater to. I have a problem with some of the stuff sold at Christmas that totally detract from the true meaning of the holiday in devout Christendom. The commercialism of this holiday sickens me. Do you really want Hanukkah to become this commercialized or would you rather remain separate and honor the feast and its symbolism the way your ancestors did? They didn't run to any store for supplies....they used their own resources. This DOES NOT smack of Antisemitism on the part of Hobby Lobby, but some of these replies certainly smack of anti-christian tactics against Mr. Green, and ultimately myself. Come on...CHOOSE YOUR BATTLE based on the impact on all men
(28) James, October 8, 2013 5:29 PM
chanukia
I find your experience very strange considering a couple years ago when I was in Dallas the Hobby Lobby (I believe off Belt Line) had a very nice selection of chanukias. my friend purchased a large one about 2 feet tall along with the glass oil jars
(27) Ellie, October 8, 2013 5:20 PM
"Channukah decorations" smacks of Xmas
Succot is our festival of decorating, not Channukah. Let us not be tempted by the so-called "festive season" in December to emulate the Christians in their festival of decorating. What's next? Channukah bushes? Abba Channukah?
(26) DAS1951, October 8, 2013 4:58 PM
What a lot of fuss
It seems to me this is getting out of hand, even in this comments thread. Calling Mr Green an anti-Semite is totally OTT and, on the basis of Yvette Miller's article a libellous allegation.Just one employee is rude and maybe a bit antisemtic, yet volumes of rant are let loose against the CEO and the company, even from people who appear to know nothing about the company or its CEO.
(25) Arlene Maass, October 8, 2013 4:49 PM
c'mon bubbe we're not wanted here
The Hobby Lobby story brings to mind an old joke.
An elderly Jewish man walks day after day past a church. Day after day through the open doors he hears diatribes and invective against the Jews.
Enough already! One day, the old man marched into the church, went right up to the front, and lifts up a statue, and begins to walk out with it.
Ignoring all of the shouts and screams, he looks down at the statue of Jesus and says, "C'mon bubbe. We're not wanted here."
So if Hobby Lobby doesn't "cater to you people," then they had better remove Jesus, Miriam, and Yosef, and the shepherds from their Christmas Nativity sets. "C'mon bubbe, we're not wanted here.
(24) r, October 8, 2013 4:48 PM
Why is Steve Green spending thousands to buy that ancient siddur?
If he is so anti-Jewish, why is his Green foundation so actively investing in Judaica? Do they want to hide our history from us? Wish we could get this newly discovered ancient siddur away from him.
(23) Morton Friedman, October 8, 2013 4:46 PM
Hobby Lobby
I have mixed emotions. I have applauded Hobby Lobby for their standing up for their principles which have been demonstrated in their stand against the anti-Christian elements of Obamacare. That they are closed on Sunday, is a laudable standing on principle. I can well remeber jewish businesses that closed on Saturdays, and jewish baseball players that would notplay on Rosh Hashonah or Yom Kippur, even in the World Seies.
I can also understand their carrying some items, and not others .Any retail establishment has finite shelf space, and needs to cater to the demographics of its clientele. I rather doubt if there is a big market for jewish hobbyist in many areas where Hobby Lobby operates. Yes, their purported response was rather crude and unsympathetic.
I have seen similar at other major retail establishments.In one instance we were told: We do not carry Hanukkah cards,only Hallmark. Costco often carries products for Passover, and Kosher products as well, but only in those locations where the jewish clientel warrants it.
(22) Paula, October 8, 2013 4:44 PM
Like a Nazi
He's not going to sell Jewish related articles or have anything to do with Jews, but he collects valuable Jewish artifacts. Just like what the Nazi's did. Ouch!
(21) Laura, October 8, 2013 4:41 PM
Name of article is misleading. Should be Hobby Lobby Repents
Why not have a headline and story that features how Hobby Lobby is changing to include Jewish crafts? What store will add Judaica items if headlines will not commend them for changing to accommodate? I've seen Bed Bath and Beyond have Hannukah items left over after Hanukkah. They make an investment to accommodate their Jewish clientele. It's not like it's a big money maker in many parts of the country, including my own. I appreciate their efforts, and now I appreciate in advance Hobby Lobby's efforts.
(20) Randy Kleine, October 8, 2013 4:39 PM
Thanks for your "made up" story!
Ms Miller: companies do not act like this, and there is no way to confirm the innuendos in your made-up story, nor would Mr. Green be able to confirm or deny your "conversation" with one of his headquarters employees.
My suspicion, Ms Green, is that you are upset by Hobby Lobby's anti-ObamaCare position. I suspect that, unlike Hobby Lobby and most truly-observant Jews, you are pro-abortion as being a "choice" regarding preganancy.
Please, Ms Miller, don't demean yourself and your worthy cause (that of promoting religious observance) through such fiction. Thank you.
Randy Kleine, Cincinnati, OH
Cincinnati, October 9, 2013 11:29 PM
agree
Five or ten years ago I did not shop at Hobby Lobby for it's Christian innuendos. I made a big mistake. I now respect them more than some Jewish organizations, due to the very issue of Obama care and mandated "choice". It pains me to say this.
I would like to say that I believe that Orthodox Judaism is what Judaism is and this is what all Jews should aspire to, although I do not practice it as well as I could. Many people, myself included, feel a bit overwhelmed stepping into an Orthodox congregation and services. However once rules are broken, the alternatives are fraught with hidden agendas. The break with traditional Jewish law over the past few hundred years has led us down the path of un-forseen consequences.
In the community that I live in (which is not unique in any way) - most non- Orthodox congregations preach acceptance of all - poor, wealthy, homosexual, mixed marriages, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, atheists to name just a few. We are to exist as one and accept. However, there is the "elephant in the room." If you are a Republican or Libertarian - you are not welcome. In this culture, the problems of the world, including the Jewish- Palestinian problem is a problem of "racism" and "greed." Many synagogues seem more like political campaign headquarters rather than a safe-haven for the forlorn or a place of worship.
This past year, my husband and I (after considerable thought) withdrew membership (as well substantial donations) to a congregation where we had been members for nearly twenty years. My husband discussed the above issues with the Rabbi. We were met with minimal resistance and parted on "good terms(?)" - in the politically correct language of the Rabbi.
So after all this, I will shop at Hobby Lobby.
(19) Anonymous, October 8, 2013 4:36 PM
Why support an anti-Jewish company?
So Hobby Lobby doesn't want to stock Jewish-themed items? Fine with me. Why would I want to FORCE a company with those 'values' (?!) to stock those items? So I could give my money to support a bigot? ...No thanks, there are plenty of other places that happily sell Jewish-themed items.
art, October 9, 2013 3:12 AM
where to buy items
our temple has a large showcase where one can buy menorahs and other Jewish themed items. In addition to convenience it raises some money for charity use. It's run by a volunteer and is open by appointment.
(18) Abe, October 8, 2013 4:26 PM
There was a Judaica store 14 miles away. Go there.
I searched online for Judaica stores in New Jersey near the Hobby Lobby store in question. I'll bet the Judaica store I found less than an hour away could use your business more than the Hobby Lobby.
(17) Shabse, October 8, 2013 4:19 PM
proud of Hobby Lobby
I've never shopped at Hobby Lobby because I don't live near one, but if one was close by, I certainly WOULD give them my business, Hanukah items notwithstanding. The firm stands firm on its beliefs regarding the sanctity of life - and literally puts their money where their mouth is. If their beliefs preclude selling Jewish-themed items, that's fine with me. I wouldn't expect to find Christian items in Jewish store. What's more important is that they stand up for sacred values - values that we as Jews should also defend. And their defense of those values has cost them millions of dollars and the loss of business from the lunatics that are destroying(what is left of) the moral fabric of American society.
(16) bvw, October 8, 2013 4:19 PM
a ham sandwich in a Jewish deli
Always bugs me even when the Deli isn't kosher. Also bugs me when a store well known to be owned by Jews is decorated for Xmas and Easter. Likewise I'm happy to shop at stores run by fiercely anti Jewish owners if they have what I need, but I'll try to shop elsewhere first. Opinions change via personal interaction, and that is the divine purpose of business.
(15) Anonymous, October 8, 2013 4:15 PM
Hobby Lobby and the oldest siddur
Steven Green's collection was found to include the oldest existening siddur carbon dated to 840 CE It's speculated that it's Amram Gaon's siddur. He has made it available to Jewish scholars and it's being studied. I doubt if he's anti-Semitic. Still, it's good that Hobby Lobby was made aware that their policies are discriminatory and they should be aware of us and our needs.
(14) Bruce Smith, October 8, 2013 4:13 PM
DIY!
So, problem solving on the level that I "can", I thought of the following solution. We can always purchase the raw materials (from Hobby Lobby or other art supply outlets) and craft our own Hanukkah decorations, just like we usually do for decorating our own Sukkahs, right? When you get lemons, make lemonade! Have a Happy Hanukkah!
Anonymous, October 9, 2013 7:14 AM
great idea!
Bruce's idea is perfect. After all, that's exactly what hobby stores are for - to get materials to make things ourselves! That's what makes hobbies so much fun anyway. It would take all the fun out of it to just buy it already assembled. Leave that to the Walmarts and the Targets.
(13) Anonymous, October 8, 2013 4:12 PM
Short-Sighted
As was alluded to in one of the earlier comments, can you imagine a Christian organization demanding an apology from a Jewish store for not selling Christmas trees? They can sell whatever they want, if it's their store. Why are we jumping on this bandwagon? I think we all need to take it easy and stop the witch-hunt mentality.
Rae, October 10, 2013 5:14 PM
Thank You
Thank You, Anonymous....Short Sighted commented. This has been a witch hunt.
(12) benjamin, October 8, 2013 4:07 PM
Steven Green
Steven Green is in fact a born Jew. a sad fact, I did business w HL
(11) Jeff, October 8, 2013 4:07 PM
Stop complaining...just don't shop there
I am amused by the kvetching going on about Hobby Lobby.
I've never been in one, and don't intend to go. There are, after all, alternative choices.
Are you (collectively) whining for some particular reason? Or is this just a general whine?
(10) Judith Zissler, October 8, 2013 4:03 PM
anti semitism
It is a fact that anti semitism is alive and well in the United States and all over the world. What a sad thing that to be Jewish seems to be a crime.
(9) Shlomo Dovid, October 8, 2013 3:47 PM
Never heard of Hobby Lobby - or is it Lobby Hobby?
I've never heard of them, and now I'm just as well pleased.
Could it be that the owner of Hobby Lobby believes that all Jews are strong, left-wing, liberal socialists and would be opposed to his "strong values"? His ignorance is beyond belief.
Anonymous, October 9, 2013 7:09 AM
You accuse him of ignorance beyond belief...
you accuse the owner of Hobby Lobby of ignorance beyond belief, presumably for believing "that all Jews are strong, left-wing..." (your words) How do you know what he believes? Your accusation shows exactly this kind of prejudice and ignorance, because you assume him to have these beliefs when you don't know anything of what is in his soul and what he believes about Jews, simply based on what his store sells or doesn't sell.
(8) Nancy, October 8, 2013 1:33 PM
"We don't cater to you people" smacks of nothing moré than anti-Semitism.
Michael, October 8, 2013 4:03 PM
Who was anti-Semitic?
Just a thought: did the customer hear the CEO say "you people' or the clerk. I'm not saying that the act of keeping decorations to Christian holidays is open minded, and it might be based in an anti-Jewish boas, but might it not also be based in a Christian's desire to have everyone be Christian? (Many want that, based on sharing of their Gospell, missionary work, etc.) I think it is responsible to ask the CEO why, rather than assigning a reason for him. Again, just a thought.
David Etenburn, October 8, 2013 5:19 PM
Easy, Nancy. I heard on good authority that employee was terminated. Furthermore, most Christians and Christian companies appreciate Judean values; after all, they are taught their salvation comes from the Jews.
The good of all of this, besides what Yvette Miller wrote about, is that Hobby Lobby will more than likely start carrying some items that commemorate Jewish holidays. Let's see what happens. It may be too late for them to react by this Passover, but a year from now???
Remember, G.d will make all things good.
Steven, October 8, 2013 6:01 PM
accusations
What in this article indicates that Steve Green hates Jews, hates women, or is scared of gay people? Has made a business decision - that is all. Why should he carry items that may not sell in his stores? Will you make up for the loss? Why should he provide a health benefit that directly contradicts his religious beliefs? We as Jews should understand the need to respect other religious beliefs.
Don't be blinded by liberalism. Use logic and reason.
Anonymous, October 8, 2013 7:05 PM
Thank you Steven for your unbiased comment
Thank you Steven for your unbiased comment. I read so many judgmental biased hateful comments here that I am saddened. Again ,thank you for your sound and unbiased comment.
(7) Laiv, October 8, 2013 11:36 AM
apples and oranges
It is one thing when a specialty store sells only type of item. I do not expect to purchase Jewish items in a Christian bookstore, nor would I expect to find Christian items in a Judaica store. But this is a general merchandise store that caters to the general public. Lets be honest, for that kind of store not to sell to a specific group that "goes against" their beliefs, especially when they are so public about their beliefs, is a problem. What if Target or Wallmart decided not to sell Jewish themed items anymore? Hobby Lobby is wrong in their actions, and I for one will not shop there anymore. At least until I see a public admonition on their part and a change in their behavior and attitude.
(6) Rochie, October 8, 2013 4:44 AM
I won't be a Hobby Lobby consumer anytime soon
I haven't shopped at Hobby Lobby for years even though there is one close to my home and a trip to Michaels is further away. There was just something about the store that I did not like. "We are closed on Sundays because it's our day of rest". Your article validated my feelings and confirmed my continued avoidance of this store. Thank you.
Anonymous, October 8, 2013 12:50 PM
Why resent their day of rest?
Saturday is OUR day of rest. Why do you resent that Hobby Lobby is closed on their day of rest? I am pleased that they don't sell Jewish craft. It doesn't belong in their store. We should be pleased that we are not so commercial.
Anonymous in Brooklyn, October 8, 2013 4:22 PM
Double Standard
I agree with you, Anonymous. As an Orthodox Jew, I simply cannot understand how we can demand that a member of another religion sell products that conflict with his beliefs and complain about his store being open on what he views as his Sabbath. If I had a store, even if it did indeed sell some general merchandise, I would not want to be forced to sell items from other religions, such as Christimas decorations, or for that matter provide my non-Jewish or Jewish employees with benefits that conflicted with my beliefs. We need to stop complaining about Christians do in a primarily Christian country. America is not a Jewish country.
Anonymous, October 8, 2013 6:02 PM
Well said
Well Said!!
Lisa, October 8, 2013 1:39 PM
Thankfully I never even heard of Hobby Lobby
They are allowed to celebrate their Day Of Rest which is Sunday....but not carrying Chanukah items speaks volumes!
DAVID FRANKEL, October 8, 2013 4:45 PM
IF HOBBY LOBBY DONT WANT TO CARRY ANY JEISH PRODUCT THEN ITS THEIR RIGHT NOT TO I DONT NOT THINK ITS ANY THING BUT THIER BUSNISS YOU MAKING FUSS OVER NOTHING
Gabriela, October 8, 2013 5:03 PM
Why compete with so many jewish stores that sell them?
Why should they compete with so many jewiswh stores that sell these items and are more knowledgable about them when they stock. Christians have the right to promote a store with an unapologetic christian culture just as jews do. This doesn't mean we hate jews or that jews hate christians when they shop at unapolagetic orthodox jewish stores.
Anonymous, October 8, 2013 3:56 PM
Maybe there is a supply and demand issue also
There are no Hobby Lobby's in my neck of the woods (Los Angeles) although I have visited HL in other states and loved the merchandise. Perhaps not enough Jews shop there to justify stocking the Jewish-themed merchandise, which being holiday-oriented, has a very limited shelf life. Rather than "boycotting" someplace not many of us frequent, we should start crafting and buying more knick knacks. As far as closing on Sunday, good for them.
Anonymous, October 8, 2013 3:59 PM
Michaels
I found it interesting that you would shop at Michaels. A few years ago they also said they would NOT carry Hanukkah themed items. They never apologized or made the news headlines.... Perhaps because they don't say they are a Christian company? Perhaps we also need to take a look at our attitudes toward Christians....
REBECCA, October 8, 2013 4:17 PM
SHOMER SHABBOS
While I am against what Hobby Lobby is doing they have every right to keep closed on Sunday just as orthodox Jews keep closed on Shabbos.
(5) Anonymous, October 8, 2013 12:42 AM
this makes me think about bigger issues
This is an interesting article. It contains all kinds of important issues. Like the hurtful remark by the sales clerk. And the things that make different groups of people separate from others. But also the values that different faiths and people share in common, and the value of sometimes standing together in different ways and at different times.
I am a Catholic Christian, and I do not find it contrary to my faith to support Jewish people in celebrating Jewish holidays. After all, as a Catholic I believe that God chose the Jewish people and revealed his Word to them. And the miracles of Hanukkah and other Jewish holidays were miracles of God.
However, it seems that some Christians feel it contrary to their faith to be personally involved in expressions of other faiths, and as such I think it's important to consider that they may be doing so not out of hatefulness but rather out of a desire in good faith to act in accordance with their conscience (I'm referring here to the owner choosing not to stock Hanukkah items, etc. not the sales clerk who's remark simply showed disrespect to Jewish people).
Likewise, I would not consider it offensive towards myself or other Christians, if a Jewish business owner chose not to stock items for the celebration of Christian holidays. I would support their right to not carry Christian-themed merchandise, because to force him or her to do so would be a violation of his or her conscience.
Going beyond this particular issue, I often wish that Christians and Jews, and all people of good will would stand together more often (on issues of course that are appropriate to their commonly shared values). Especially when it comes to issues of freedom of religion, because a violation against anyone's freedom is bad for all.
nina, October 8, 2013 8:55 AM
Thank you and agree exactly
The owner's decision not to stock articles of another faith must be respected, but not the alleged insulting remark. And about the other poster's remark-what is wrong with closing on Sundays and saying it is our day of rest? Shouldn't we be doing this too, on Shabbat? We don't need to consume 7/7, but to have time with our families instead, and the sooner we get back to this, the better.
(4) cincinnati, October 8, 2013 12:10 AM
support them
When I seen a store that sells Chanukah items, I always try to buy something so that they will continue to have these products.
(3) Anonymous, October 7, 2013 2:39 PM
insulted?
As an Orthodox Jew, if I owned a store, I wouldn't stock Christmas supplies- wouldyou?
Anonymous, October 8, 2013 5:09 PM
Good for you!
Good for you! I'm chatholic and I don't feel discriminated by what you say.
tachliss, October 8, 2013 8:14 PM
why not?
sell what the buyers want to buy. who cares what it is. you dont have to bring the items home, just the profit. business is business. yes, I am orthodox and have no problem doing business with non-Jews and supplying them what they need. what if your local grocery didnt supply foods with hechshers because there are plenty of choices in food supply and many equal quality products possibly of lower cost. HL can do whatever it wants. you do not have to shop there any more that you can choose a different grocery store if they dont carry kosher food. anything can be ordered online.
Anonymous, October 9, 2013 9:26 PM
I wouldn't stock Christmas items either, but I wouldn't tell a Christian that "we don't cater to you people."
(2) Joseph, October 7, 2013 2:18 PM
Business is Business
When I think of all the Christmas ornaments I bought at Jewish stores, I cannot believe the insensitivity of this company.
(1) Jack, October 7, 2013 1:24 PM
They have a right to sell whatever they want
This was misplaced activism in my opinion. They can sell or not sell whatever they want. If a consumer doesn't like it, don't shop there, Maybe next year they'll change their mind for business reaoson
What's going to happen when people complain to Eichler's Judaica that they don't carry reindeer and Santa Claus hats.