Airport Security Solution

Let's learn from the Israelis.

Comments (32)

(32) felloffthetruckbutnotyesterday, December 11, 2010 6:57 AM

The real reason is that we can't/won't profile. Targeting terrorists makes them feel singled out and uncomfortable, so we have to hassle everyone!

(31) , December 6, 2010 1:23 AM

Until we learn the skills of that the Israelis know we need to pat people down and remove shoes and all the other techniques if they are working. True neither my wife nor I like the discomfort of being patted down, the inconvenience of removing our shoes, and find that the time it takes is annoying. But it is far better to go through the hassle than to risk having a terrorist on the flight. Sandy Goodman Oklahoma City, OK

(30) Beverly Kurtin, Ph.D., December 5, 2010 10:54 PM

Hands up!

Benjamin Franklin once said that anyone who is willing to surrender some freedom for security deserve neither. The United States will not take advice from Israel, period. The offer has been made and rejected. Why? Gelt. Raytheon and other corporations stand to lose millions if not billions of dollars if the U.S. stopped forcing passengers to go through machines that irradiate people who are wiling to be x-rayed. That kind of radiation is accumulative, i.e. the chest x-ray you got when you went into a hospital, the x-rays your dentist uses; every x-ray you get throughout your life changes your bodily function. Yes, it is a tiny amount, but being disabled, I get too many x-rays every year that might cause my death earlier than if I had never had been exposed to radiation. For the record, I'm a 70 year old woman, a terrorist I might be? A 4 year-old child needs to be humiliated like a hole in their head. And THAT IS THE MAIN PROBLEM: TSA suffers from rectal-cranial inversion, as does the rest of our government. And who are people angry about? Of course, Israel. If Israel would just commit suicide, terrorism would disappear so they think. But Americans do not think. I refuse to give up my freedom just to fly. I REFUSE TO ALLOW TERRORISTS to steal my freedom. Since I have started driving long distances, I find that I am less stressed, I get to see a lot of the country I've never seen and when I get to my destination, I have my vehicle with my wheelchair ramp with me! HINT: Bose and Sony (and others) make noise reduction earphones. Those eliminate the engine and road noise. Eliminate those noises and you can drive hundreds of miles more than you think because it is all that noise that exhausts a driver. I've driven to Las Vegas from the Fort Worth area in 19 hours, stopping only for food and fuel and went from my car to two meetings back-to-back before getting some sleep. Next year I'm driving to Connecticut from Texas. I HAVE MY FREEDOM BACK! Wheeeeee.

(29) raul eluchans, December 5, 2010 9:02 PM

amateur security at Northamerica airports

it is unfortunatee that the so call airport security at Northamerica airports is carried out but people who do not know what they are doing; it is only a big show where mistreat people for no reason, giving a false sense of security. They should lean from the experts: Israelis.

(28) Ed Hand, December 5, 2010 3:17 PM

Isreal profiles, it is the only way!!

I was at Ben Gurion airport last month. They look at the person not the documents. Documents can be false but the way the person looks and acts cannot! We were interviewed several times in the line and moved to different lines based on those interviews. NO STUPID PAT DOWNS!

(27) chana, December 5, 2010 5:14 AM

What Israel Can Teach Us About Airport Security

I found this article, linked to an article about a nursing mother being harassed by TSA personnel in Phoenix, AZ. Yes, we in North America could learn a lot, if we were open to it. see: http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/744426--what-israel-can-teach-us-about-security

(26) Chana, December 5, 2010 4:44 AM

Timothy McVeigh was not a Muslim

And not all Muslims are Arabs, they might be of any race. It's more sophisticated then that, Cindy. I would like to think that Daniel is correct, that the US already consulted Israel on airport security. Size is a problem --plus, we don't update our "No Fly List" often enough.

(25) Jane, December 4, 2010 10:26 PM

What is Racial Profiling?

What Israel does is not Racial Profiling. And, if we practiced the same methods, it would still not be racial profiling. We all know from whence the terrorists come. Why to we make everyone who we KNOW is innocent pay for the crimes of people from a group known to be the source of the violence and mass destruction . If their masses are of good intentions, THEY should not mind being screened and questioned for the priviledge of traveling throughout the world. It is all backwards and for no good reason, except to placate the criminals who wish to do the rest of us harm. If good and innocent Muslims want to ensure that they are good neighbors, caring for their own genetic brothers and sisters, and their brothers and sisters in all of humanity, I cannot understand why they do not do the honorable and rational thing abd submit to the screenings . If they did a lot of reasonable things, this terrible world crisis would have been over already. We would all be willing to help them, welcome them, wish them well, if they would stop expecting and demanding more than any other group has ever expected. Screening bassed on statistics and intelligence IS NOT RACIAL PROFILING, it is the wise and pragmatic thing to do.

(24) David S, December 2, 2010 12:58 AM

Body Scanners

I love the "up in arms" pun! However, the liberals in the USA may be much more comfortable with body scanners and pat down searches than with racial profiling and keeping watch on passenger lists. It may, however, be a matter of time before some protest group champions one cause over another, namely the lack of privacy from scanners/pat down searches over racial profiling. Untill something like that happens, what we need, however, from Rabbis is not to bemoan this type of cause but rather to provide us with halachic guidance as to what course of action to follow in the event of a body scan or pat down search. Or do we have to avoid traveling where this takes place?

(23) shoshana, December 1, 2010 10:31 PM

the world doesn't want to rely on israel for help

Its no secret that israel has a very high level of security that no other place can comptete with. The world doesn't realize how lucky Israel(BYH)is that they have not faced terror attacks or threats? No one wonders how israel managed to prevent terrorists from getting on the plane? They can't accept what a miracle from G_d. In addition, to how well trained israel is. The world is so anti israel that they rather a terror attack then accept the fact that they needIsrael's help. How can they ask Israel for help while at the same time always critisizing them.

(22) Anonymous, December 1, 2010 6:37 PM

Its all a question of Racial Profiling, can US handle that?

Its all a question of Racial Profiling, can US handle that?

(21) Daniel Behar, December 1, 2010 4:27 AM

Size does Matter

I agree that the body scanners are not effective (head of Ben Gurion Aiport Security said so).... The only problem instilling everything the Israelis do in thier airport is the size of the US(300 Million People) the amount of airports (376 that have regularly scheduled airline service). In Israel, there are only 3 international airports. Also, the U.S. has instilled many of the security measures of Israel, including dogs and people who observe the crowds for suspicious activity.... Again, I do believe that the body scanners are not effective, but I don't agree that the U.S. has not gotten advice from Israel regarding airport security.

(20) cindy, December 1, 2010 2:59 AM

dont be politically correct

The USA doe not want to offend their Muslim friends and that is the only reason they do not racially profile...ego has nothing to do with it......I assure you that if G-d Forbid Jews would be involved in aviation terrorism, they would racially profile us....but not the Muslims whose side the USA is now on.....they refuse to recognize accept that all terrorists are Muslim

(19) Cindy, December 1, 2010 2:19 AM

security measures?

I have heard that the Israelis do have the best security at their airports, but how do we convice the world to follow or at least, look into 'our' minds and hearts (the Jewish mind and heart) if we can't get them to trust Israel in defending itself against terrorism and standing up for their own rights?

(18) Russell Jones, December 1, 2010 1:50 AM

jonesr1@k12tn.net

Right on. I have been through the Ben Gurion Airport in Tel Aviv and it is awesome. They don't play. But they do very little for handicapped people without a 24 hour notice.

(17) Leslie Duverge, December 1, 2010 1:15 AM

I wonder as I wander

I seriously question if radiation received from those scanners is actually safe, especially for a pregnant woman. I also wonder if Rabbi Y. Salomon is advising the general public to ask about safety to the Israelis at Ben Gurion, or is he advising the top Politicians who proposed and formulated these new measures, to reconsider what they are doing? Rabbi Salomon is 150% correct about the safety at Ben Gurion. Ben Gurion has well trained young individuals who appeared to be very confident in what they are doing. I am certain that if they sense anything leading to an alert, they would act quickly upon the given circumstance. I was asked tons of questions when I traveled to Israel recently, but I felt safe and treated with utmost respect at all time while they were questioning me. I would rather go through the Israeli's system, than what we have at other airports here, where the security officers and staff are nasty and disrespectful towards the passengers. They yell at you, and always appear to be in bad mood. To have them touch your body whether it is same gender or not, or go throught those type of scanner is even more scary. Thanks Rabbi Salomon for encouraging people to think about this wide concern and raise a voice.

(16) Aron O Witz, December 1, 2010 1:06 AM

NAtural radiation is clearly different than x-Rays

I did my thesis on the impact of radiation in compromised populations. Even 'low dose' scanners such as the ones empolyed increase the risk. There is a clear difference in radiation when you fly- which is natural versus the kind that is generated artificially by these machines. Furthermore, there is no clear standardization, nor calibration in the imaging, which gets done on a daily basis in a clinical setting. Also, in a clinical setting- you are provided with a lead vest, which protects you and only allows exposure to certain areas of your body. The TSA is telling lies about the exposure risk- and even quotes Johns hopkins as supporting the scan when they were clear about their postion that the x-rays will cause cancers. Columbia university supports this statement- and that is even with the data given to them by the TSa. However, x-rays have been shown to be strong due to the fact that some have bonesa showing in their fingers. Finally, I worry that the TSa agents are uneducated, and do not understnad the risks and will be coming down with many cases if skin cancer- or other cancers in ralation to their work. Terrorists will exist and we must be cautious. In isreal there is a clear risk, however, people continue on in their lives. And yes, I will certainly give up flying.

(15) Bernie Rosenberg, December 1, 2010 12:48 AM

pbrose98@optonline.net

poppycock! ! ! how can you compare israel to jfk, l.a., or o'hare airports?? you are truly disillusional. so, they see your poopick!! who cares? what is it a monet? if this was done on 9/11,it might not have happened.

(14) Anonymous, November 30, 2010 10:13 PM

Just came from Israel Too

Incorrect, you can not take bottle of water on the plane even if you bought after the security check at Ben Gurion. only the tiny bottles just like in USA,

(13) yehudit, November 30, 2010 9:22 PM

not much x-ray

If Aron does not want to go through the scanner because of worries about x-ray exposure, then she definitely should not fly. Riding in an airplane for an hour exposes one to more x-rays than walking through a scanner does.

(12) Dena, November 30, 2010 8:45 PM

Not Practical in Huge Airports

From what I understand, the experts in the U.S. are saying that it's not practical to do it the "profiling" way that it's done in Israel. The Israeli security people ask lots of questions to establish who/what the passenger is. This may be practical for one airport like Ben Gurion but they claim that it's not practical in an airport like JFK where the volume of passenger traffic is so huge. Who knows? I would sure be happier if they did it the Israeli way. BTW from what I understand the amount of radiation from the scanners is less than the radiation we get from being in an airplane in the sunlight. Pretty wild, huh? In any event, I personally prefer a pat down by a same gender officer.

(11) Anonymous, November 30, 2010 8:43 PM

airport security at US airports

I agree 100% with Rabbi Salomon. The US should definitely ask the Israelis for help. This said, it should be realized that whereas Israel has only one major airport, and is a tiny country, the US has far more airports to contend with and a far larger travelling population. The US hysteria and disgusting manhandling of human beings as well as asking small children to strip, plus scanning human beings with their private parts viewed by anyone is an absolutely obscene way of going about protecting US lives of a very real threat . It is the Muslim terrorists who should be blamed for this indecent and revolting response by the US, and yet I have not heard a single word condemning these terrorists. Again, I agree with Rabbi Solomon.. ...but will the US authorities see the light and do the right thing...i.e. do racial profiling, ask the right sort of questions and watch the body language and expression of passengers? Will they demand that luggage be sent to the airport a day or so in advance so that it would be meticulously checked? I doubt it.. as this would mean they would be infringing on the human rights of certain profiled people. Yet they think nothing of defiling the human rights of every passenger irregardless of their background and/or age, and gender.

(10) Tammie, November 30, 2010 8:26 PM

what security measures used, considered or not, inform

if this is an answer it seems ridiculous just to say i don't know what the israelis are doing. we should find out who knows what the Israelis are doing for airport security and if the governments of the world have considered what is working in the Israeli airports? if not they should be informed of these measures, for their consideration and possible implementation. I would be surprised if Israel was not included in these discussions already or that Israel would not offer their suggestions to the world in light of all that has transpired. I like that if you don't know ask....an expert or someone more knowledgeable

(9) Paul, November 30, 2010 7:31 PM

Certainly something to think about & Happy Chanukah

Good point & certainly something to think about. Happy Chanukah Rabbi Yaakov Salomon & everyone !!

(8) Anonymous, November 30, 2010 6:06 PM

Israel uses racial profiling which won't work here.

When I've flown through Ben Gurion, I've seen every Arab subjected to full manual and visual inspection of baggage and then questioned separately; I have no idea what that questioning entails. Israeli security inspection is based on behavioral characteristics and screening is triggered by racial traits and specific conduct. The U.S. cannot, as a multi-racial society, institute racially based screening, so I don't see the point to saying we haven't consulted with the Israelis. What is the point when legally, under our Constitution, we cannot rely on the triggers that Israel routinely uses? I was twice subjected to manual/visual inspection of luggage at BF on two occasions: the first time, a black area appeared on the screen and I was asked about the "machine" in my carry-on. I didn't have any machine. The screener called her supervisor who grilled me about the purpose of my travel and, my itinerary, before returning to my suspicious baggage. I said I'd be happy to open my bag, but the supervisor preferred to yell at me publicly and to demand that I identify my machine. Finally, I was ordered to open my bag, and the supervisor scoffed as we realized that the dark object was aluminum foil packaging of Dead Sea mud cosmetics that I had bought as souvenirs (back before American stores routinely stocked Dead Sea cosmetics). The second time, I had checked my baggage with hotel security before my departure for BG, and Israel's security staff considered this risky behavior. My bags were emptied in public and I was asked if each item was mine. Israel does what it needs to do to keep itself and its travelers and airlines safe, within the framework of its experiences and its legal system. In my opinion, so does the U.S. Different experiences and laws require different responses. Our Equal Protection Clause doesn't allow TSA to racially profile, so everyone is equally searched, equally inconvenienced and hopefully equally kept safe to travel again.

(7) Mark Gary Blumenthal, MD, MPH, November 30, 2010 3:38 PM

YOU BET!

If we had any collective brains, we would emulate Israel and El Al rather the inane approach Homeland Security and the TSA have concocted. IMHO, neither the scanner nor a pat-down is such a big deal (I am a physician and really do not worry about nonsense), but the methods are not likely to prove effective for detection. They may be useful for deterrence, which would be fine with me, but they are useless for detection and hence a poor investment. Of course, some looney-toons oppose any intervention into their personal space by the gub'ment, but during wartime such as we are experiencing, we all have to make CERTAIN sacrifices for the security of all. IMHO, the principal problem would be the cost. El Al hires top professionals, screens them professionally, trains them professionally, and pays them professionally. Americans have become idiotic enough that they would not be willing to pay a small tariff on airline travel to make it safer. As an aside, Al-Qa’eda has made it crystal clear that they intend to bring terror to our shores by any and all means available. I fail to understand why we continue to concentrate our efforts on Iraq and Afghanistan where we have no remaining vital interests. Iran might be a different matter altogether, but Iran’s Arab neighbors need to use their own baytsim rather than expecting the United States and Israel to do all the work and then take all the blame. As much as I dislike their methods, the current WiKi Leakers may begin to persuade the American People that we are fighting the wrong wars, in the wrong places, using the wrong methods, while bankrupting our treasury and reducing America’s reputation in to the world to that of an impotent bully. Shalom, y’all

(6) Aron O Witz, November 30, 2010 3:41 AM

Don't submit

This is really an articulate video, however, xrays actually cause cancer, and people are walking through them in the millions because they wish to avoid the hassle and may not case about the real risks associated with the scanner. Furthermore,I object to my sons naked pictures being taken, and my naked body being shown on a picture- nameless and faceless? no they are me and my hsband and my little boys naked picutres. /This is not a safety measure Rabbi, this is taking away of our rights. what about the right to modesty? I will not show my chest or my body to anyone but my husband. Of course, since i have a cancer history, i will not go through the machine and will have to get felt by a TSA agent that has no more than a GED. And will forcefully touch me where no one should, except in the most intimate of relations, such as a doctor or a husband. Rabbi, they violate women and children, and while you make an intelligent argument about "why did'nt they ask isreal?" well that is not the point, it is to have people submit and get used to this. Because in germany- during the nazi era- rights were slowly stripped away, and people just wnet along with it. PLEASE TAKE A STRONGER STANCE.. they are molesting a whole generation.. and i as a womn refuse to have my privates felt by anyone- and our men should be screaming and shouting. THIS is not for our safety.. this is for people to submit.. i will not fly again.

(5) lisa, November 29, 2010 2:43 AM

Just do it.....

If you want to fly these days......just do it & comply with the rules.....and yes, thank G-d, the Israeli's know what they are doing....we just keep buying new & more expensive gadgets!!!

(4) TMay, November 28, 2010 8:24 PM

IMHO

If 1 does not want to go through the pat down 1 should opt for the machine. 1 expert said it would be easy to adjust the machines to create a cartoon type figure instead of the realistic figure of the body but that it could still show weapons clearly. Then the problem would be the random pat downs where 1 does not get the choice. IMHO the govt handled this badly by not consulting with psychologists who could have given them an answer as to how a reasonable human being would respond and then they could have figured answers out before Thanksgiving week, but they are the govt and the govt handles things badly. (There is not competition.) There should be separation between the person who sees the human and the person who sees the image with the same person not seeing both. I do not know if that happens because videos show it being the same person. The pilot should not have to go through it as pointed out by several writers because he can bring the plane down without a bomb. Furthermore TSA handled the fights regarding TSA employees harassing each other over the machine images badly. They let people keep their jobs when it would have been important for the USA public and to teach the TSA employees about showing respect and acting with dignity with natl security on the line. The harassing employee should have been publicly and finally fired and possibly sued for harassment. And include Pelosi, Biden, Pres. Obama's children and congress and everyone else. Enough with the elites passing laws that affect us from which they are exempt. And crimlnal laws should be passed regarding selling/ distributing images. Let frequent travelers get investigated and put on a list with a counterfeit proof card.

(3) Chavi, November 28, 2010 7:49 PM

No brainer

This one is a no brainer. If you want to get it right, go to the experts who have already gotten it right.

(2) Daniel Morgenbesser, November 28, 2010 3:45 PM

What is the big deal?

It is not practical to do with The Israelis do as they only have one airport, while here there are many. What is the big deal with going through a scanner? It just shows an outline of somebody. I just don't get what the problem is.

(1) Rosen, November 28, 2010 2:29 PM

security and experts

It's naive to think that those who don't want to sacrifice some of their liberties for some security are unpatriotic and don't support America or whichever country they live in. With these invasive body scanners and pat downs, it is most likely unnecessary since America and the world should be asking the Israelis how to go about conducting more consolidated security measures. I know that the Israelis do behavioral and passenger profiling along with interviews in a way that make everyone traveling out of Ben Gurion airport are comfortable. Since there are a lot more full-body scanners and pat-downs in America, one would wonder why they may not have such security measures in airports throughout most of the world such as Europe and the broader Middle East, esp. Yemen. Transatlantic flights ought to be screened more than American domestic flights since we've already seen the shoe bomber and the underwear bomber attempt to detonate the plane in flight - not to mention how many unchecked packages there have been coming from Yemen targeting synagogues in America, despite the more recent suspension of packages coming out of such broader Middle East countries...As for seeking experts, it really depends on who one asks for. Last night I went to Best Buy attempting to get size C batteries for my parents, and I didn't see any of them on the shelves, and I asked several store employees if they had them in the back, where normally you'd think employees ought to be more knowledgeable and professional when it comes to such a basic item, esp. during the holiday season. One of the employees didn't quite know what the size was like and another thought I needed a camera battery. They had failed to provide me with size C batteries, so it seems like these Best Buy employees were unprepared for all battery sizes, which was the only thing I came into the store for - could've really been a simple in/out. I went there since I had a couple gift cards. At least my dad thanked me for trying.

 

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