The Clash of Ben-Gurion and Begin

Meet the founding fathers of Israel, Israeli prime ministers and political enemies David Ben-Gurion and Menachem Begin. An exploration of their two opposing views and how they shaped Israel.

Comments (13)

(6) Linda, February 9, 2019 7:49 AM

Thank you, I did not miss the lesson for each of us!

(5) David Levine, February 7, 2019 8:16 PM

An EXCELLENT Presentation

This was an excellent presentation of Israel's early political rivalry and I salute the presenter.

(4) John Conrad, February 7, 2019 8:15 PM

Enjoyed the comments

Thanks for the very short summary of the lives of some of Israel's early leaders. I especially enjoyed hearing about the fiery disagreements but a lingering mutual respect between the major protagonists. Important history indeed.

(3) Reuven, February 7, 2019 3:00 PM

good summary with one important omission...

Prior to the "Iron Wall" policy Zabotinsky tried to forge very positive relations with the Arab population of Palestine. He was a true progressive. His biography tells of his private discussion with an Arab Chieftain in which they discuss the future. The Arab chief who was his friend told him: The Arabs don't care if these lands will remain barren for a thousand years. They will never accept a Jewish state here. That resulted in Zs changing his policy to a hard line.

(2) Raymond, February 5, 2019 5:39 AM

Decency Was Always on Only One Side

From what I could tell, basic human decency was displayed by only one side of the internal conflict. Menachem Begin went out of his way to show respect for those who opposed him, while David ben-Gurion was completely intolerant toward anybody who dared to be on the Political Right. This is exactly how it is in today's America, with the Left showing extreme intolerance toward anybody who dares to disagree with their Leftist agenda. Thank G-d, though, that once Menachem Begin managed to become Israel's Prime Minister, that Israel has been controlled for the majority of the time by the Likud Party, while David Ben-Gurion's Labor Party has largely been discredited.

Anonymous, February 5, 2019 11:22 AM

The left is known for its tolerance

in the U.S. In this last election it felt as though it was a battle for the Soul of the country. Thank G-d the democrats re-gained the House. It is the right, and its neo-nazi types that spew hatred and intolerance.
And it is from this side, that those that will take a life, come from.

With regard to Israel, it is a shame parties such as Meretz have lost their voice.

Raymond, February 5, 2019 3:04 PM

The Left Loves to Project

The Left almost constantly projects their own faults onto us conservatives. They claim it is us conservatives who are full of hate, and yet it is the Left who has such an extreme, completely irrational hatred of our current President and any other Republican who manages to win the White House. If President Trump would find a cure for cancer, the Left would respond by calling him a racist. The Left constantly calls our side nazis, when in fact the nazis were nothing but the German version of socialists, with their form of government having many of the very elements that the Left strives for, most notably a very strong, powerful central government that dictates every aspect of our lives, enforceable at the barrel of a gun. And as for taking innocent lives, it is the Left who insists on murdering tens of millions of helpless, unborn babies.

With regard to Israel, it is a shame that there are Leftist Jews who want their own Jewish State to be taken over by the islamoNazi terrorists.

Yisroel, February 5, 2019 4:06 PM

Your response to “the left is known for its tolerance “

I couldn’t have said it better.
Before reading the comment, I thought “surely, that Title is sarcastic!
The left demands tolerance for THEIR views. They have zero tolerance for any that disagree with their views.
The reason that Menachem Begin was able to be so accepting of Ben Gurion Rabin and their totalitarian views is because of his overpowering love of the concept of a Jewish people. I

I will never forget how, when he voted in the 1977 election, his work down here completed, he sat with a large yarmulka and opened a Sefer Tehillim, praying that he would win.

He was not perfect but he was a fine representative of a good Jew.

Anonymous, February 5, 2019 4:54 PM

Nationalists not socialists, Hitler was a fascist

The ignorance on this site never ceases to amaze me, especially incidentally in Torah knowledge.

Unbelievable.

Yisroel, February 7, 2019 5:44 PM

Nazi is an abbreviation

The National Socialists.
How can you claim that they were not socialists?

David, February 8, 2019 11:36 AM

The Nazis were not really socialists

The Nazis used the pretence of socialism to gain support from the masses, but they weren't really a socialist party.

David Levine, February 7, 2019 8:18 PM

Well Stated!

Well stated about the intolerance of leftists for opposing political views. To them we're not their opponents but their enemies and I have to fight every day from holding he same personal dislike for them that they have for us.

(1) Anonymous, February 3, 2019 8:19 PM

I hope every American Jew on Aish watches this video

This is history rarely shared and important as to why criticism is essential when it comes to governments. These are politicians, with personal agendas, and tragedies, yes, could have been avoided.

Same as today.

 

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